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This writeup misses a lot of information about this group's ties to FSB, here's a better source: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/12/12/the-fsb-s-personal-hack

This writeup misses a lot of information about this group's ties to FSB, here's a better source: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/12/12/the-fsb-s-personal-hackers https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/12/12/the-fsb-s-personal-h... Basically, it's founder married a daughter of a high-placed FSB official and enjoys full immunity for his actions.

cosmodisk 7y ago
Schemes like this, especially of this scale, rarely,if ever,run without any suport from these type agencies. So while the guy's face is all over the internet for being 'the leader' of the org, I'm pretty sure there are quite few people above him that will never ever end up on any DoJ lists.
- SAI_Peregrinus 7y ago
  The people above him are over the authority of the DoJ, they're in the domain of the CIA & Department of State to deal with. At a certain level prosecuting people starts international diplomatic incidents, and the DoJ tends to avoid those without DoS authorization.
chatmasta 7y ago
I wonder if American agencies provide similar semi-official cover to US criminals who hack into foreign systems...
- jsjohnst 7y ago
  I have no proof I can offer up, but the answer is yes.
bashinator 7y ago
I really hope Brian Krebs has a very good bodyguard and other personal protection in place.
- jokoon 7y ago
  that's exactly why I don't want to teach myself computer security it's way too dangerous, and it's going to be worse and worse
  - Jamwinner 7y ago
    Its the opposite. Now you are defenseless online and off.
    - jokoon 7y ago
      I know how basic security work, which is enough to protect myself. And I don't have enough money to attract elaborate scams. What I mean is that I don't risk getting involved in a business that can attract murderers and geopolitical interests. I would be happy to work for a computer security company if it was working towards making the world a safer place, meaning searching for vulnerabilities and fixing them. But so far the computer security market tend to favor wrongdoing, because there are no standards or political forces that encourage people to do security work for good reasons. One reason is to let intelligence agencies have the upper hand. That's why I'm not really willing to work in security. It's an unregulated market. I think that most people who do computer security work either for governments, for blackhats, or for pointless security consulting who have a very hard time to do a meaningful job.

cosmodisk 7y ago

Schemes like this, especially of this scale, rarely,if ever,run without any suport from these type agencies. So while the guy's face is all over the internet for being 'the leader' of the org, I'm pretty sure there are quite few people above him that will never ever end up on any DoJ lists.

SAI_Peregrinus 7y ago
The people above him are over the authority of the DoJ, they're in the domain of the CIA & Department of State to deal with. At a certain level prosecuting people starts international diplomatic incidents, and the DoJ tends to avoid those without DoS authorization.

chatmasta 7y ago

I wonder if American agencies provide similar semi-official cover to US criminals who hack into foreign systems...

jsjohnst 7y ago
I have no proof I can offer up, but the answer is yes.

bashinator 7y ago

I really hope Brian Krebs has a very good bodyguard and other personal protection in place.

jokoon 7y ago
that's exactly why I don't want to teach myself computer security it's way too dangerous, and it's going to be worse and worse
- Jamwinner 7y ago
  Its the opposite. Now you are defenseless online and off.
  - jokoon 7y ago
    I know how basic security work, which is enough to protect myself. And I don't have enough money to attract elaborate scams. What I mean is that I don't risk getting involved in a business that can attract murderers and geopolitical interests. I would be happy to work for a computer security company if it was working towards making the world a safer place, meaning searching for vulnerabilities and fixing them. But so far the computer security market tend to favor wrongdoing, because there are no standards or political forces that encourage people to do security work for good reasons. One reason is to let intelligence agencies have the upper hand. That's why I'm not really willing to work in security. It's an unregulated market. I think that most people who do computer security work either for governments, for blackhats, or for pointless security consulting who have a very hard time to do a meaningful job.