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Having looked carefully into what Boeing has been doing with the 737 Max, I have no intention of flying on one ever again, even if it gets rammed through FAA ag

by jwr 7y ago

Having looked carefully into what Boeing has been doing with the 737 Max, I have no intention of flying on one ever again, even if it gets rammed through FAA again. Though I am absolutely certain that all the sleazy airlines (or perhaps Boeing) will soon begin a rebranding project, changing the name to something that people will not immediately recognize.

retSava 7y ago
Unless you boycott Boeing 737-max similar airplanes, you may fly with one without knowing it. The name is really badly burnt and the only plausible way out of it for Boeing is renaming it to something that doesn't ring the bell. IIRC I read that they've already done that for the airplanes that are being delivered since the grounding.
- IAmEveryone 7y ago
  As far as I can tell, no planes have been delivered since the grounding. The airlines aren't willing to take delivery of a flawed product. It would just cost them money to park them, and may even have legal consequences, such as shifting the burden of proof in any legal disputes that may still arise.
  - alistairSH 7y ago
    You are correct about delivery. Boeing has parking lots full of new Max that are ready for delivery.[1] The OP is referring to several Max that had their paint changed to remove "737 MAX" and replace it with "737 8200" (see link to RyanAir example in sibling).[2] 1 - https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190709&t=2&i=1406233054&w=780&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=2019-07-09T194009Z_12328_MRPRC18CF54C5E0_RTRMADP_0_BOEING-DELIVERIES https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190709&t=2... 2 - https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/15/boeing-737-max-ordered-by-ryanair-undergoes-name-change https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/15/boeing-737-...
    - joezydeco 7y ago
      I drove by that parking lot this summer when visiting Seattle. And it's really a parking lot, like one used for employees and now it's stuffed to the borders with 737MAXs sealed up with tape and waiting for final updates.
      - alistairSH 7y ago
        It looks like about half the lot is striped for cars and the other half striped for plane storage. But, the planes are overflowing and filling most of both sections. There's also a large gate on the lot, with street controls (parking lot is across a busy street from the factory, it appears) so Boeing must regularly use part of it for planes.
  - kayfox 7y ago
    IIRC the FAA wont allow Boeing to transfer ownership of the aircraft until the grounding is lifted.
- iso1210 7y ago
  Simple solution: If it's Boeing, I 'aint going
isthisnametaken 7y ago
The UK's sleaziest airline is way ahead of you https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/15/boeing-737-max-ordered-by-ryanair-undergoes-name-change https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/15/boeing-737-...

by jwr 7y ago

retSava 7y ago

Unless you boycott Boeing 737-max similar airplanes, you may fly with one without knowing it. The name is really badly burnt and the only plausible way out of it for Boeing is renaming it to something that doesn't ring the bell. IIRC I read that they've already done that for the airplanes that are being delivered since the grounding.

IAmEveryone 7y ago
As far as I can tell, no planes have been delivered since the grounding. The airlines aren't willing to take delivery of a flawed product. It would just cost them money to park them, and may even have legal consequences, such as shifting the burden of proof in any legal disputes that may still arise.
- alistairSH 7y ago
  You are correct about delivery. Boeing has parking lots full of new Max that are ready for delivery.[1] The OP is referring to several Max that had their paint changed to remove "737 MAX" and replace it with "737 8200" (see link to RyanAir example in sibling).[2] 1 - https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190709&t=2&i=1406233054&w=780&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=2019-07-09T194009Z_12328_MRPRC18CF54C5E0_RTRMADP_0_BOEING-DELIVERIES https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190709&t=2... 2 - https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/15/boeing-737-max-ordered-by-ryanair-undergoes-name-change https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/15/boeing-737-...
  - joezydeco 7y ago
    I drove by that parking lot this summer when visiting Seattle. And it's really a parking lot, like one used for employees and now it's stuffed to the borders with 737MAXs sealed up with tape and waiting for final updates.
    - alistairSH 7y ago
      It looks like about half the lot is striped for cars and the other half striped for plane storage. But, the planes are overflowing and filling most of both sections. There's also a large gate on the lot, with street controls (parking lot is across a busy street from the factory, it appears) so Boeing must regularly use part of it for planes.
- kayfox 7y ago
  IIRC the FAA wont allow Boeing to transfer ownership of the aircraft until the grounding is lifted.
iso1210 7y ago
Simple solution: If it's Boeing, I 'aint going

isthisnametaken 7y ago

The UK's sleaziest airline is way ahead of you https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/15/boeing-737-max-ordered-by-ryanair-undergoes-name-change https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/15/boeing-737-...