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Minecraft has had a native recipe book for some time. It displays crafting recipes as you progress through the game.

willis936 7y ago
If the challenge was to train an AI to be able to read a recipe book that would be more impressive imo. Even more impressive would be an AI that could gather the necessary resources. It would be a full game playing AI. An imitation AI to get diamonds is neat, but the fact that it is considered feasible on one GPU in one day speaks to the difficulty of the problem more than anything imo.
- SquareWheel 7y ago
  It may be cheating, and sort of against the point, but those recipes are stored as json files. Makes things a lot easier.
  - CrazyStat 7y ago
    It would be cheating. The contest rules [1] specifically rule out using domain knowledge. [1] https://gitlab.aicrowd.com/minerl/minerl-resources/blob/master/Rules.md https://gitlab.aicrowd.com/minerl/minerl-resources/blob/mast...
    - imtringued 7y ago
      The humans finding diamonds in 20 minutes are cheaters by that logic.
      - CrazyStat 7y ago
        Yes, a human competing in the AI challenge would be cheating.
        lerouxmlr 7y ago
        would it really be cheating? I mean if you get a competitive edge by utilizing complex logic, would it be fair ?
        CrazyStat 7y ago
        Complex logic would almost certainly involve human domain knowledge which is disallowed.
        moomin 7y ago
        The resources the programs can use are well specified. A human child is not part of the specified equipment.
  - willis936 7y ago
    Allowing access to the data changes the problem. It’s an interesting problem in its own right, but seems much easier to accomplish and arguably much less valuable than limiting input to images and output to mouse/keyboard. Teaching computers to interact with the world is the trick that we want to teach.
    - SquareWheel 7y ago
      That's my thinking as well. It's much more interesting to see how the AI copes with the world, rather than getting bogged down in OCR and other previously-solved problems.
usepgp 7y ago
That feature has only existed for <20% of the games lifetime. It is more than likely that the person you're replying to played the game before the recipe book existed.
- SquareWheel 7y ago
  Yes, they said as much. I'm just letting them know that the feature they asked about is now in the game.

If the challenge was to train an AI to be able to read a recipe book that would be more impressive imo. Even more impressive would be an AI that could gather the necessary resources. It would be a full game playing AI. An imitation AI to get diamonds is neat, but the fact that it is considered feasible on one GPU in one day speaks to the difficulty of the problem more than anything imo.

SquareWheel 7y ago
It may be cheating, and sort of against the point, but those recipes are stored as json files. Makes things a lot easier.
- CrazyStat 7y ago
  It would be cheating. The contest rules [1] specifically rule out using domain knowledge. [1] https://gitlab.aicrowd.com/minerl/minerl-resources/blob/master/Rules.md https://gitlab.aicrowd.com/minerl/minerl-resources/blob/mast...
  - imtringued 7y ago
    The humans finding diamonds in 20 minutes are cheaters by that logic.
    - CrazyStat 7y ago
      Yes, a human competing in the AI challenge would be cheating.
      - lerouxmlr 7y ago
        would it really be cheating? I mean if you get a competitive edge by utilizing complex logic, would it be fair ?
        CrazyStat 7y ago
        Complex logic would almost certainly involve human domain knowledge which is disallowed.
        moomin 7y ago
        The resources the programs can use are well specified. A human child is not part of the specified equipment.
- willis936 7y ago
  Allowing access to the data changes the problem. It’s an interesting problem in its own right, but seems much easier to accomplish and arguably much less valuable than limiting input to images and output to mouse/keyboard. Teaching computers to interact with the world is the trick that we want to teach.
  - SquareWheel 7y ago
    That's my thinking as well. It's much more interesting to see how the AI copes with the world, rather than getting bogged down in OCR and other previously-solved problems.

usepgp 7y ago

That feature has only existed for <20% of the games lifetime. It is more than likely that the person you're replying to played the game before the recipe book existed.

SquareWheel 7y ago
Yes, they said as much. I'm just letting them know that the feature they asked about is now in the game.