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How to Leave the United Kingdom

21 points by ciccionamente 7y ago

hacker_111 7y ago
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jamil7 7y ago
Colleagues and friends of mine from the UK have recently been applying and in (I think) all cases being granted permanent residency here in Germany. Germany seems pretty happy to pick up skilled workers especially in tech.
- joezydeco 7y ago
  The other week I was visiting family outside of Frankfurt. They're in a sleepy commuter suburb which hasn't seen any new construction in decades. This visit, I could count multiple large apartment/condo buildings being erected around town. The locals told me that downtown Frankfurt is getting too expensive to live so people are moving outward. We knew the financial types were already fleeing London for France and Germany. This seems to confirm that it's accelerating.
  - growlist 7y ago
    > We knew the financial types were already fleeing London for France and Germany. This seems to confirm that it's accelerating. Unless you can prove otherwise this simply isn't the case, a quick Google yielding the following news headlines: 'Germany angry Brexit ‘exodus did not happen’ – study shows London continues to lead' 'Bankers Don’t Flee London, Despite Exodus Predictions Mass departures from U.K.’s financial center so far haven’t happened' 'The Brexit exodus that never was Frankfurt – not as appealing as it first appeared Doom-mongers predicted a massive flight from the City. But it simply didn’t happen.'
  - AlbertoGP 7y ago
    I don’t think that’s because of any exodus from Britain: I’ve seen such developments happening in various regions in Germany (where I live) and also renovation of houses that had not been touched in the decade prior. I can’t tell whether it’s the main factor, but a big contributor at least is the lack of returns on other investments. There are big amounts of savings in Germany, and they have been diverted more and more towards real state in the last, say, five years.
- Nextgrid 7y ago
  Just wondering how is the tech scene there? I'm considering leaving the UK (regardless of any politics, it's because the contractor market is now dead thanks to some tax changes) but I'm not sure where to go. Would appreciate any advice.
  - jamil7 7y ago
    It depends what you want to do exactly since German industry is quite siloed by area so you sort of have to know what you want and which places to look but in general the country has a strong engineering culture and appreciation.
rezeroed 7y ago
Would have been more relevant if Labour had won. Not for no reason that they didn't.
forgotmypwd123 7y ago
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lvturner 7y ago
Left seven years ago, wasn't easy, have yet to regret it.
- renjimen 7y ago
  Ditto. Took a few years to embrace the cultural differences and find new friends. I find the UK quite a depressing place to go back to now.
  - dev_north_east 7y ago
    I wonder if that's a common theme among long time emigrants? I moved to the UK just over 5 years ago, I love home but find it slightly depressing being back there for more than a couple of days.
    - lvturner 7y ago
      I think it might depend on why you left, and where you moved from/to.
dev_north_east 7y ago
Yawn, some people will go. They probably would have anyways. Life goes on. All the celebs who said they'd leave, won't. I'm getting tired of seeing this again and again
allgreen 7y ago
Pure click-bait. Even with Brexit it's still 10-50x easier to found a limited entity in UK than eg in Germany.
- mhd 7y ago
  Huh? I doubt that anyone is turning their backs on the UK after a Tory win for business reasons. If you're for lax regulations and live in the UK, you might already be drunk earlier than usual.
  - ciccionamente 7y ago
    And unfortunately someone flagged this post.
growlist 7y ago
I'm quite amazed this morning at the defiant, bitter stubbornness still about amongst the rabidly pro-EU and left-wing crowd. You've just been utterly smashed; your politics absolutely repudiated with a massive turnout, in a result of epic historical proportions. The war is over. You lost. One might think that this would be a time of introspection for the losers, but that it's apparently not says a lot about their true nature, as in, they have no intention whatsoever of compromising, and if they can't get what they want the result is a massive huff, and a covert war to overturn the result, whatever the damage done along the way. There are unpleasant words for this kind of philosophy. Honestly, people that are so far out of touch with their fellow Brits are better off leaving for whatever enlightened liberal utopia they imagine they will find; newsflash: it doesn't exist, and statistics show many of them will be back once they realise the UK isn't so bad after all. The people have spoken conclusively now THREE TIMES IN THREE YEARS (2016 referendum, European Parliament elections, General Election). It's high time for the losers to start showing a bit of humility.
- crdoconnor 7y ago
  >that it's apparently not says a lot about their true nature, as in, they have no intention whatsoever of compromising Labour's Brexit policy was a compromise. The Tories was the opposite. The voters pretty clearly rejected the idea of compromise.
  - growlist 7y ago
    > The voters pretty clearly rejected the idea of compromise. Strange, because to me it looks like The Brexit Party got zero seats, and the (compromising soft-Brexit) Conservative party won.
    - crdoconnor 7y ago
      The Tories tried to trigger a no deal. The deal they did get was a pretty hard Brexit.
      - 7y ago
goodhacker 7y ago
Not really applicable to the situation. A pro business centrist Conservative won with a large majority. Labour is the only party along with the BNP (white supremacists) to be Investigated by the human rights commission for racism. The talk of people of colour wanting to leave is over blown. Look at the cabinet and junior ministers, it's one of the most diverse there has been.
- growlist 7y ago
  In a similar vein, it's always amusing to see the Conservatives attacked for misogyny: which of the two main parties has had two female PMs, versus none?
  - happytoexplain 7y ago
    It's surreal to see the "more women in positions == less misogyny" fallacy being championed in defense of conservatives for once.
    - growlist 7y ago
      Because fewer women in positions of power equals less misogyny?! Ok then.
zozbot234 7y ago
Remember all those folks who said they were going to leave the U.S. if Trump won the 2016 elections? Yup, me neither.
- happytoexplain 7y ago
  I can't tell if you're purposefully implying that there were many more people who earnestly said that than went through with it as some kind of insult, but regardless, I'd be genuinely curious to know if there are any numbers.
IdontRememberIt 7y ago
In 1992, when Switzerland voted "NO" to the EEE (European Economic Area), we had all these drama for a few years in the newspapers. The Swiss media kept telling us we would die alone on our island in the middle of Europe...
- happytoexplain 7y ago
  Is there a strong practical correlation between this and that (i.e. not just a thematic similarity)?
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21 points by ciccionamente 7y ago

Colleagues and friends of mine from the UK have recently been applying and in (I think) all cases being granted permanent residency here in Germany. Germany seems pretty happy to pick up skilled workers especially in tech.

joezydeco 7y ago
The other week I was visiting family outside of Frankfurt. They're in a sleepy commuter suburb which hasn't seen any new construction in decades. This visit, I could count multiple large apartment/condo buildings being erected around town. The locals told me that downtown Frankfurt is getting too expensive to live so people are moving outward. We knew the financial types were already fleeing London for France and Germany. This seems to confirm that it's accelerating.
- growlist 7y ago
  > We knew the financial types were already fleeing London for France and Germany. This seems to confirm that it's accelerating. Unless you can prove otherwise this simply isn't the case, a quick Google yielding the following news headlines: 'Germany angry Brexit ‘exodus did not happen’ – study shows London continues to lead' 'Bankers Don’t Flee London, Despite Exodus Predictions Mass departures from U.K.’s financial center so far haven’t happened' 'The Brexit exodus that never was Frankfurt – not as appealing as it first appeared Doom-mongers predicted a massive flight from the City. But it simply didn’t happen.'
- AlbertoGP 7y ago
  I don’t think that’s because of any exodus from Britain: I’ve seen such developments happening in various regions in Germany (where I live) and also renovation of houses that had not been touched in the decade prior. I can’t tell whether it’s the main factor, but a big contributor at least is the lack of returns on other investments. There are big amounts of savings in Germany, and they have been diverted more and more towards real state in the last, say, five years.
Nextgrid 7y ago
Just wondering how is the tech scene there? I'm considering leaving the UK (regardless of any politics, it's because the contractor market is now dead thanks to some tax changes) but I'm not sure where to go. Would appreciate any advice.
- jamil7 7y ago
  It depends what you want to do exactly since German industry is quite siloed by area so you sort of have to know what you want and which places to look but in general the country has a strong engineering culture and appreciation.

rezeroed 7y ago

Would have been more relevant if Labour had won. Not for no reason that they didn't.

forgotmypwd123 7y ago

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lvturner 7y ago

Left seven years ago, wasn't easy, have yet to regret it.

renjimen 7y ago
Ditto. Took a few years to embrace the cultural differences and find new friends. I find the UK quite a depressing place to go back to now.
- dev_north_east 7y ago
  I wonder if that's a common theme among long time emigrants? I moved to the UK just over 5 years ago, I love home but find it slightly depressing being back there for more than a couple of days.
  - lvturner 7y ago
    I think it might depend on why you left, and where you moved from/to.

dev_north_east 7y ago

Yawn, some people will go. They probably would have anyways. Life goes on. All the celebs who said they'd leave, won't. I'm getting tired of seeing this again and again

allgreen 7y ago

Pure click-bait. Even with Brexit it's still 10-50x easier to found a limited entity in UK than eg in Germany.

mhd 7y ago
Huh? I doubt that anyone is turning their backs on the UK after a Tory win for business reasons. If you're for lax regulations and live in the UK, you might already be drunk earlier than usual.
- ciccionamente 7y ago
  And unfortunately someone flagged this post.

growlist 7y ago

I'm quite amazed this morning at the defiant, bitter stubbornness still about amongst the rabidly pro-EU and left-wing crowd. You've just been utterly smashed; your politics absolutely repudiated with a massive turnout, in a result of epic historical proportions. The war is over. You lost. One might think that this would be a time of introspection for the losers, but that it's apparently not says a lot about their true nature, as in, they have no intention whatsoever of compromising, and if they can't get what they want the result is a massive huff, and a covert war to overturn the result, whatever the damage done along the way. There are unpleasant words for this kind of philosophy. Honestly, people that are so far out of touch with their fellow Brits are better off leaving for whatever enlightened liberal utopia they imagine they will find; newsflash: it doesn't exist, and statistics show many of them will be back once they realise the UK isn't so bad after all. The people have spoken conclusively now THREE TIMES IN THREE YEARS (2016 referendum, European Parliament elections, General Election). It's high time for the losers to start showing a bit of humility.

crdoconnor 7y ago
>that it's apparently not says a lot about their true nature, as in, they have no intention whatsoever of compromising Labour's Brexit policy was a compromise. The Tories was the opposite. The voters pretty clearly rejected the idea of compromise.
- growlist 7y ago
  > The voters pretty clearly rejected the idea of compromise. Strange, because to me it looks like The Brexit Party got zero seats, and the (compromising soft-Brexit) Conservative party won.
  - crdoconnor 7y ago
    The Tories tried to trigger a no deal. The deal they did get was a pretty hard Brexit.
    - 7y ago

goodhacker 7y ago

Not really applicable to the situation. A pro business centrist Conservative won with a large majority. Labour is the only party along with the BNP (white supremacists) to be Investigated by the human rights commission for racism. The talk of people of colour wanting to leave is over blown. Look at the cabinet and junior ministers, it's one of the most diverse there has been.

growlist 7y ago
In a similar vein, it's always amusing to see the Conservatives attacked for misogyny: which of the two main parties has had two female PMs, versus none?
- happytoexplain 7y ago
  It's surreal to see the "more women in positions == less misogyny" fallacy being championed in defense of conservatives for once.
  - growlist 7y ago
    Because fewer women in positions of power equals less misogyny?! Ok then.

zozbot234 7y ago

Remember all those folks who said they were going to leave the U.S. if Trump won the 2016 elections? Yup, me neither.

happytoexplain 7y ago
I can't tell if you're purposefully implying that there were many more people who earnestly said that than went through with it as some kind of insult, but regardless, I'd be genuinely curious to know if there are any numbers.

IdontRememberIt 7y ago

In 1992, when Switzerland voted "NO" to the EEE (European Economic Area), we had all these drama for a few years in the newspapers. The Swiss media kept telling us we would die alone on our island in the middle of Europe...

happytoexplain 7y ago
Is there a strong practical correlation between this and that (i.e. not just a thematic similarity)?

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