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> There is absolutely no evidence for this whatsoever. The ability to program or not, the ability to abstract, generalize, arrange your code right, solve proble
by dkhenry 7y ago
> There is absolutely no evidence for this whatsoever. The ability to program or not, the ability to abstract, generalize, arrange your code right, solve problems, ask questions, and so on, changes little when the tooling ceremonies are different.
There is overwhelming evidence for this, and its been known to anyone who has had to hire engineers for a very long time. Something like 95% of people with CS degrees can't do any of the things you listed there.
- seanmcdirmid 7y agoOverwhelming evidence? For such claims, citations are generally requires, or is the evidence all anecdata? > Something like 95% of people with CS degrees can't do any of the things you listed there. Again, I don’t think this is born out at all. Yes, a lot of people fail or answer that LeetCode question with that special trick solution in 45 minutes, but we don’t really have any quick tests to gauge actual ability in the hiring process.
- dkhenry 7y agoI am only aware of one study that found it was actually 97% of full time engineers couldn't write code[1], but I don't think that was a very rigorous study. The best evidence would be the very well known blog post by Jeff Atwood [2] or this article on c2[3]. Also you don't need to ask LeetCode questions, simple for loops can throw most people off, that I know from anecdata. 1. https://www.gadgetsnow.com/jobs/95-engineers-in-india-unfit-for-software-development-jobs-claims-report/articleshow/58278224.cms https://www.gadgetsnow.com/jobs/95-engineers-in-india-unfit-... 2. https://blog.codinghorror.com/why-cant-programmers-program/ https://blog.codinghorror.com/why-cant-programmers-program/ 3. http://wiki.c2.com/?FizzBuzzTest http://wiki.c2.com/?FizzBuzzTest
- perl4ever 7y ago97% of everyone knows that 97% of everyone is incompetent. But not the other 97% which includes you and me.