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With vscode recent remote capabilities its hard to push(come up with a argument) vim/emacs for programmers who do dev in remote VMs.

Exuma 7y ago
Does vscode have vim emulation or actual vim that runs plugins. If it's the former, your statement is ludicrous.
- vips7L 7y ago
  It has vscode vim [0] which works well for default configurations, but it's not "actual" vim. I know with sublime text there is an actual-vim plugin [1] which lets you run neo-vim. [0] https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim [1] https://github.com/lunixbochs/actualvim https://github.com/lunixbochs/actualvim
- Scarbutt 7y ago
  Yes, there's vim emulation. You can't run vim plugins but there are plugins that to the same as the vim ones.
wyldfire 7y ago
Help me understand more: what are "remote capabilities" wrt vscode? I kicked the tires on vscode and atom and while I liked lots of things about them, it seemed like they were kinda overboard with memory consumption. These things are ultimately running web browsers, right? I'll probably have to give it another look.
- Scarbutt 7y ago
  https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/remote-overview https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/remote-overview
  - wyldfire 7y ago
    Hmm, that's interesting. I might just give that a try. Thanks for sharing!
thesuperbigfrog 7y ago
Tramp mode (https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TrampMode https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TrampMode) has been part of emacs for some time now.
p1esk 7y ago
How is it better than the good old remote deployment feature in Pycharm?
- Scarbutt 7y ago
  Pycharm still requires and assumes you have a local python environment.
  - p1esk 7y ago
    I'm confused, is vscode not a local environment?
    - oblio 7y ago
      VS Code is local but I assume OP means with VS Code remote extensions you don't need Python locally.
      - p1esk 7y ago
        Oh I see. Yes, it's a good point.
Blaiz0r 7y ago
With Vim being such a complete and powerful piece of software that still receives useful yet light features and is extensible to a dizzying degree, it's hard to push vscode on programmers that want an efficient tool.
__s 7y ago
I tried vscode's remote capabilities. Ended up back on SSH/tmux/vim workflow. Ctrl-p file lookup was too slow, I like my shell, I didn't find the vscode terminal to be the best terminal experience
mixmastamyk 7y ago
sshfs has been a thing I've used with any editor for at least a decade. Making it part of the editor itself instead of the file manager is bloaty.

Exuma 7y ago

Does vscode have vim emulation or actual vim that runs plugins. If it's the former, your statement is ludicrous.

vips7L 7y ago
It has vscode vim [0] which works well for default configurations, but it's not "actual" vim. I know with sublime text there is an actual-vim plugin [1] which lets you run neo-vim. [0] https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim [1] https://github.com/lunixbochs/actualvim https://github.com/lunixbochs/actualvim
Scarbutt 7y ago
Yes, there's vim emulation. You can't run vim plugins but there are plugins that to the same as the vim ones.

wyldfire 7y ago

Help me understand more: what are "remote capabilities" wrt vscode? I kicked the tires on vscode and atom and while I liked lots of things about them, it seemed like they were kinda overboard with memory consumption. These things are ultimately running web browsers, right? I'll probably have to give it another look.

Scarbutt 7y ago
https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/remote-overview https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/remote-overview
- wyldfire 7y ago
  Hmm, that's interesting. I might just give that a try. Thanks for sharing!

thesuperbigfrog 7y ago

Tramp mode (https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TrampMode https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TrampMode) has been part of emacs for some time now.

p1esk 7y ago

How is it better than the good old remote deployment feature in Pycharm?

Scarbutt 7y ago
Pycharm still requires and assumes you have a local python environment.
- p1esk 7y ago
  I'm confused, is vscode not a local environment?
  - oblio 7y ago
    VS Code is local but I assume OP means with VS Code remote extensions you don't need Python locally.
    - p1esk 7y ago
      Oh I see. Yes, it's a good point.

Blaiz0r 7y ago

With Vim being such a complete and powerful piece of software that still receives useful yet light features and is extensible to a dizzying degree, it's hard to push vscode on programmers that want an efficient tool.

__s 7y ago

I tried vscode's remote capabilities. Ended up back on SSH/tmux/vim workflow. Ctrl-p file lookup was too slow, I like my shell, I didn't find the vscode terminal to be the best terminal experience

mixmastamyk 7y ago

sshfs has been a thing I've used with any editor for at least a decade. Making it part of the editor itself instead of the file manager is bloaty.