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I'm a happy uBlock Origin user but this one just seems unfair to content creators.

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tartoran 7y ago
I wonder who could tell if the sponsored content was seen or not seen by any viewers... As far as I can tell the content creator gets their share once they reference the sponsor segment.
- Mirioron 7y ago
  I don't know whether sponsors do this, but creators themselves can see a breakdown of viewership as a percentage at different parts of the video. If enough people skipped it then it would show up.
crazygringo 7y ago
Why? There's zero way for sponsors to know whether the sponsorship segment was skipped over or not, I assume? They'll continue paying the same, no?
- StavrosK 7y ago
  There is a way to for sponsors to tell whether the segment was skipped or not, it's what they're all using: Counting how many purchases they got from a specific ad.
- wongarsu 7y ago
  If this gains wide adoption it just becomes a part of the decision for sponsorship agreements. I can guesstimate if the viewers from a specific youtuber use this tool by how quickly data appears after a new video. If I estimate that 20% of viewers skip the sponsorship segment then the sponsorship is worth at most 80% of full price.
gpm 7y ago
You don't have a right to make money by manipulating impressionable people into buying things that they don't need. Or maybe you do because of free speech, but you definitely don't have a right to have other people not try and stop you from succeeding.
- umvi 7y ago
  And you don't have a right to have your cake and eat it too. It's astonishing how many people on HN believe it is okay to shaft the sponsors of the content they enjoy and consume. What ever happened to "don't bite the hand that feeds you?"
  - iicc 7y ago
    I object to someone trying to influence me, just because they're paid to. Don't you?
    - wongarsu 7y ago
      Then don't watch sponsored channels?
      - tetris11 7y ago
        And if the only fast video sharing site is teeming with these kind of videos? What would a sane man do?
        umvi 7y ago
        Support the content creator with Patreon and then skip the in-video sponsorship with a clear conscience.
        ajayyy 7y ago
        Maybe my extension will convince some youtubers to offer non sponsored videos on patreon. That would be the dream result of this extension. Even nebula (CGP Grey and Kurzgesagt's steaming platform) sadly doesn't enforce this.
StapleHorse 7y ago
Yea, It seems excesive, I just press right four or five times and skip it manually. Besides, the sponsored content usually is a bit more rellevant.
al_chemist 7y ago
You are happy to remove adverts from website, but removing adverts from video is unfair? Why?
- jraph 7y ago
  I'm not giving my point of view on fairness of skipping adverts in video vs. ad blocking on the web, but a big difference for me is tracking. I find sponsored segments really intrusive and I hate ads, but at least they are not targeted at me specifically. The sponsor hasn't installed some crappy js / resource to track me and target me. The ad is bound to the video instead.
  - ajayyy 7y ago
    I dislike them due to the deceptiveness in many modern ones (neglecting to mention that they are sponsored). It still is obvious to most viewers, but not to people not familiar. - sponsorblock developer
    - edgartaor 7y ago
      What channels are you watching? The channels I follow state "This video is sponsored by..."
      - ajayyy 7y ago
        Here is the video that made me start working on SponsorBlock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfgT6zx4k3Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfgT6zx4k3Q Here is a thread where I explain: https://www.reddit.com/r/kurzgesagt/comments/ca7vub/first_deceptive_sponsor_spot_no_mention_that_they/ https://www.reddit.com/r/kurzgesagt/comments/ca7vub/first_de... Note how the only mention of "Thanks to Dashlane for supporting this video!" is below the Read More button in the top comment. It really hurts me because I love Kurzgesagt, and I know they can do better. I don't like how much leverage theses advertisers have.

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I wonder who could tell if the sponsored content was seen or not seen by any viewers... As far as I can tell the content creator gets their share once they reference the sponsor segment.

Mirioron 7y ago
I don't know whether sponsors do this, but creators themselves can see a breakdown of viewership as a percentage at different parts of the video. If enough people skipped it then it would show up.

crazygringo 7y ago

Why? There's zero way for sponsors to know whether the sponsorship segment was skipped over or not, I assume? They'll continue paying the same, no?

StavrosK 7y ago
There is a way to for sponsors to tell whether the segment was skipped or not, it's what they're all using: Counting how many purchases they got from a specific ad.
wongarsu 7y ago
If this gains wide adoption it just becomes a part of the decision for sponsorship agreements. I can guesstimate if the viewers from a specific youtuber use this tool by how quickly data appears after a new video. If I estimate that 20% of viewers skip the sponsorship segment then the sponsorship is worth at most 80% of full price.

gpm 7y ago

You don't have a right to make money by manipulating impressionable people into buying things that they don't need. Or maybe you do because of free speech, but you definitely don't have a right to have other people not try and stop you from succeeding.

umvi 7y ago
And you don't have a right to have your cake and eat it too. It's astonishing how many people on HN believe it is okay to shaft the sponsors of the content they enjoy and consume. What ever happened to "don't bite the hand that feeds you?"
- iicc 7y ago
  I object to someone trying to influence me, just because they're paid to. Don't you?
  - wongarsu 7y ago
    Then don't watch sponsored channels?
    - tetris11 7y ago
      And if the only fast video sharing site is teeming with these kind of videos? What would a sane man do?
      - umvi 7y ago
        Support the content creator with Patreon and then skip the in-video sponsorship with a clear conscience.
        ajayyy 7y ago
        Maybe my extension will convince some youtubers to offer non sponsored videos on patreon. That would be the dream result of this extension. Even nebula (CGP Grey and Kurzgesagt's steaming platform) sadly doesn't enforce this.

StapleHorse 7y ago

Yea, It seems excesive, I just press right four or five times and skip it manually. Besides, the sponsored content usually is a bit more rellevant.

al_chemist 7y ago

You are happy to remove adverts from website, but removing adverts from video is unfair? Why?

jraph 7y ago
I'm not giving my point of view on fairness of skipping adverts in video vs. ad blocking on the web, but a big difference for me is tracking. I find sponsored segments really intrusive and I hate ads, but at least they are not targeted at me specifically. The sponsor hasn't installed some crappy js / resource to track me and target me. The ad is bound to the video instead.
- ajayyy 7y ago
  I dislike them due to the deceptiveness in many modern ones (neglecting to mention that they are sponsored). It still is obvious to most viewers, but not to people not familiar. - sponsorblock developer
  - edgartaor 7y ago
    What channels are you watching? The channels I follow state "This video is sponsored by..."
    - ajayyy 7y ago
      Here is the video that made me start working on SponsorBlock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfgT6zx4k3Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfgT6zx4k3Q Here is a thread where I explain: https://www.reddit.com/r/kurzgesagt/comments/ca7vub/first_deceptive_sponsor_spot_no_mention_that_they/ https://www.reddit.com/r/kurzgesagt/comments/ca7vub/first_de... Note how the only mention of "Thanks to Dashlane for supporting this video!" is below the Read More button in the top comment. It really hurts me because I love Kurzgesagt, and I know they can do better. I don't like how much leverage theses advertisers have.