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I believe they're going to address this with an update? https://keybase.io/blog/dealing-with-spam https://keybase.io/blog/dealing-with-spam

mundo 7y ago
Agreed, the tone of this post is "I'm unveiling an exploit KB refuses to patch" but the content is "I asked KB to add a feature and they added it."
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davidham 7y ago
Yes. I am 100% in sympathy with the people who are concerned about unwanted messages and team adds, but the nuclear option at the bottom of the post seems to cover it: > `[ ] Only let someone message me or add me to a team if...` The only thing I can think of that would be better than this would be to enable this by default.
KallDrexx 7y ago
While the updates here are good, the bigger thing I'm surprised they aren't addressing is spam messages requiring attention. Just split the messages into folders of "people I have contacted and/or whitelisted" and "Strangers". Any incoming message of a non-whitelisted person or someone I haven't contacted previously should not trigger a notification and should be nothing more than a notification bubble in the folder with a number of unread messages. This means that I only forced to deal with messages by known people, and when I get bored I can peruse messages from strangers and decide if I want to deal with them or not.
- hombre_fatal 7y ago
  Facebook Messenger does this. e.g. google "facebook other inbox".
geofft 7y ago
It's fascinating that the two example spammers in that post have women personas, whereas a huge chunk of the problem is men (generally actual men, not fake personas) trying to hit on women. It's not clear to me Keybase believes that's actually a problem or, as the original article says, working as designed.
- dewey 7y ago
  100% of the spam messages I receive on various platforms (Especially IG) are fake women personas so I'd say their example is pretty spot on.
  - geofft 7y ago
    Sure, but, is that Keybase's problem? Keybase and Instagram are very different apps with very different target audiences, and Instagram didn't have an uptick in unwanted messages after changing their user base via a a cryptocurrency drop. (See also jakelazaroff's subthread.) If Keybase, an app that is (or was) about encrypted messaging and replacing the PGP web of trust with something more meaningful, is assuming their spam problems look like the spam problems of Instagram, they are probably going to solve the wrong problems.
- buzzkillington 7y ago
  It's fascinating that you think the problem of being uncomfortable is worse than the problem of cat phishing.
  - adamsea 7y ago
    Uncomfortable?
    - geofft 7y ago
      Don't feed the trolls.
  - geofft 7y ago
    There's two senses of "worse" that you could mean. If you mean "it is worse to be on the receiving end of the first than the second," then I think that's an accurate statement of my beliefs, but I don't think it's super relevant. The claim I'm making is "There is a worse outbreak of the first on Keybase than the second," which is a testable claim (that I might be wrong about!).

mundo 7y ago

Agreed, the tone of this post is "I'm unveiling an exploit KB refuses to patch" but the content is "I asked KB to add a feature and they added it."

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davidham 7y ago

Yes. I am 100% in sympathy with the people who are concerned about unwanted messages and team adds, but the nuclear option at the bottom of the post seems to cover it: > `[ ] Only let someone message me or add me to a team if...` The only thing I can think of that would be better than this would be to enable this by default.

KallDrexx 7y ago

While the updates here are good, the bigger thing I'm surprised they aren't addressing is spam messages requiring attention. Just split the messages into folders of "people I have contacted and/or whitelisted" and "Strangers". Any incoming message of a non-whitelisted person or someone I haven't contacted previously should not trigger a notification and should be nothing more than a notification bubble in the folder with a number of unread messages. This means that I only forced to deal with messages by known people, and when I get bored I can peruse messages from strangers and decide if I want to deal with them or not.

hombre_fatal 7y ago
Facebook Messenger does this. e.g. google "facebook other inbox".

geofft 7y ago

It's fascinating that the two example spammers in that post have women personas, whereas a huge chunk of the problem is men (generally actual men, not fake personas) trying to hit on women. It's not clear to me Keybase believes that's actually a problem or, as the original article says, working as designed.

dewey 7y ago
100% of the spam messages I receive on various platforms (Especially IG) are fake women personas so I'd say their example is pretty spot on.
- geofft 7y ago
  Sure, but, is that Keybase's problem? Keybase and Instagram are very different apps with very different target audiences, and Instagram didn't have an uptick in unwanted messages after changing their user base via a a cryptocurrency drop. (See also jakelazaroff's subthread.) If Keybase, an app that is (or was) about encrypted messaging and replacing the PGP web of trust with something more meaningful, is assuming their spam problems look like the spam problems of Instagram, they are probably going to solve the wrong problems.
buzzkillington 7y ago
It's fascinating that you think the problem of being uncomfortable is worse than the problem of cat phishing.
- adamsea 7y ago
  Uncomfortable?
  - geofft 7y ago
    Don't feed the trolls.
- geofft 7y ago
  There's two senses of "worse" that you could mean. If you mean "it is worse to be on the receiving end of the first than the second," then I think that's an accurate statement of my beliefs, but I don't think it's super relevant. The claim I'm making is "There is a worse outbreak of the first on Keybase than the second," which is a testable claim (that I might be wrong about!).