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Google has handed information related to my account to the DoJ

sudoaza 7y ago
Ddin't know this person, now i know, the twitter account has lots of great info, thanks DOJ for bringing this into my attention.
slowenough 7y ago
At least the deep state now lets you know when you're under surveillance / of interest. This truly is progress. In the West usually you don't know. In China, you know. ∴ China > West. But now West is catching up. That's good. The deep state must exist, but if it's opaque, that's worse for individuals. This is a good thing. edit, to below: >> after arrest? you numbskull, the deep state doesn't deal in arrest. that's police and the courts. the deep state is covert surveillance, influence, blackmail, intimidation and harassment. in the West, everyone holds their tongue in the hope you go crazy. at least in China you know if you're a target of the security service. no gaslighting is better for individuals. further example is panoptikon facial recognition surveillance you jaywalk you get a WeChat fine immediately. That's a feedback loop it's actually good for the citizens better than the weird opaque West Germany stasi western-style covert harassment bullshit. but sure you willingly choose which oppressive psychological torture you prefer to live under. the one where the people pretend it's all in your head or the one where they actually let you know, yeah, you crossed the line. what do you think respects the individual more huh, pal? which has a higher asymmetry of power and therefore is more oppressive huh pal? not so clever now are you.
- Fjolsvith 7y ago
  China < West because of things that can happen to you after you are arrested. Especially things like fair trial, organ harvesting, etc.
  - slowenough 7y ago
    Yaaawwn...Sorry pal, the failure to bring Epstein to justice ruins your favorite "West rule of law" bs. Betcha cant face that huh? edit: wow way to anger the herd! totally hit a nerve with the Epstein failure critique, nice! ∎ China deep state > West deep state
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loraa 7y ago
Time to run.
deogeo 7y ago
Can said information include everything gleaned from Google searches and pages with Google analytics? I.e. a full browsing history?
- dangerface 7y ago
  Yes, and gmail if you use, you'r gps/gsm cordinates over the past 3 years and more if you have an android phone. The scary thing as you pointed out with analytics, even if you have no google account google still hold data on you. If you use a private email server google still have a copy of every email you sent to gmail or received and will hand them over as its associated with you.
  - leonixyz 7y ago
    What do you mean with "If you use a private email server google still have a copy of every email you [..] received"?
    - jlokier 7y ago
      I believe they mean: Even if you don't use gmail, but you correspond with other people who do use gmail, the other people's copies of your messages are linked to you and handed over. It's hard to avoid corresponding with other people who use gmail. But it's even harder, when you realise this includes people using their own private email domains that are handled by the gmail service without your knowledge. Many companies do this, even if it's just for the excellent spam filtering.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 7y ago
  Of course, in the event that you've asked Google to retain that data and the order compels its production.
- tiborsaas 7y ago
  Probably pretty much everything. Think like the party who requested it. They just accessed someone's private digital life, you think they will be shy asking for data? Location history, installed apps, photos, videos, Gmail, etc. best to assume they have a full export.
blfr 7y ago
Yandex has an excellent email hosting. Almost G Suite level. At least there would be some real Russian connection. https://connect.yandex.com/ https://connect.yandex.com/
- jsmith99 7y ago
  Yandex is actually a serious option. They allow you to use multiple personal domains for free. Main disadvantage is the occasional untranslated error message.
- tiborsaas 7y ago
  Do you happen to know a great North-Korean email provider? I've heard they treat IT security even stricter than Russians.
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  - AndrewBissell 7y ago
    Yandex could be a reasonable alternative to GMail for anyone who's much more likely to quarrel with the US government than with the Russian. Which probably applies to most denizens of the West. Sure, it's not the best opsec, but at least you know that unlike Google, when the DoJ says "jump!" Yandex is not going to say "how high?"
    - monkeydreams 7y ago
      > Which probably applies to most denizens of the West. Most denizens of the West seem to like Western democracy and, well, Putin doesn't. So Russia doesn't. So Yandex doesn't. As one of the "denizens of the West" - we might hate on what the US does, but only because we believe it could do better. We have no such expectation of Putin.
  - droithomme 7y ago
    I trust Russian and Chinese companies not to respond to US fishing expeditions violating my privacy more than I do US based companies. As far as someone spying on my emails, I get that no matter who I go with other than self-hosting.
campuscodi 7y ago
A PACER search didn't return anything for the case number referenced in the email. Although, the user did post an update later on: https://twitter.com/SomersetBean/status/1201913860745236481 https://twitter.com/SomersetBean/status/1201913860745236481
- phyalow 7y ago
  Still sealed?
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mark_l_watson 7y ago
A little off topic, but as a US citizen, I find it chilling how strongly President Obama went after whistle blowers (as much as all previous presidents combined) and now President Trump is just as bad in this regard. Whistle blower and journalist legal protection is a hard requirement for a free and democratic republic.
- Chris2048 7y ago
  Which whistle blowers did Trump go after? The term is loaded, it implies a level of neutrality that we don't know exists in the impeachment case - we could just as well cause the official an "accuser".
  - Miner49er 7y ago
    Reality Winner, Julian Assange, Chelsea Manning
    - tomschlick 7y ago
      Assange isn't a whistle-blower. He is a third party that was given classified information. Manning wasn't a whistle-blower either, he (at the time) was a leaker and didn't go through any of the official whistle-blower procedures to shield himself from prosecution. He also just data dumped everything he could find instead of leaking specific things.
      - Miner49er 7y ago
        Whistleblower: One who reveals wrongdoing within an organization to the public or to those in positions of authority. By that definition everyone I listed is a whistleblower. Also, FYI, you should use proper pronouns regardless of how they identified at the time. It's still a form of misgendering and unnecessarily brings up the fact that they are transgender.
        tomschlick 7y ago
ykevinator 7y ago
Who is bean?
- auiya 7y ago
  An Australian/British graphic designer who has been making graphic design resources in support of WikiLeaks and Julian Assange for ~10 years[1]. [1]https://www.gofundme.com/f/aussies-bring-assange-home-posters https://www.gofundme.com/f/aussies-bring-assange-home-poster...
eyegor 7y ago
Nice, I see we're entering the new era of us surveillance. This guy was a public figure who associated with a party under investigation, he was not directly involved. In other words, a judge issued a gag order and a data handoff request on a private citizen to Google without probable cause. How could this be anything other than a fishing expedition?
- fredgrott 7y ago
  I am puzzled here...the desc does not match other stuff he did to trigger the judge order or is there other stuff you have not disclosed yet?
- dangerface 7y ago
  > a judge issued a gag order and a data handoff request on a private citizen to Google without probable cause They weren't a US citizen they where Australian so the judge didn't need probable cause. It is perfectly legal and that should make any foreigner question their relationship with America. Do we really want an ally that has proven them selves as totalitarian as China and is determined to spy on us?
  - asdfasgasdgasdg 7y ago
    The constitution does not explicitly grant due process to non-citizens, but statutes and judicial rulings since have generally enforced that non-citizens have most of the same rights as citizens when it comes to criminal investigations. I don't think we know whether or not there was probable cause to believe a crime had been committed. We don't even know what sort of search order was granted. For example, maybe the account owner is not the subject of the investigation, but the account is believed to contain information that would be relevant nonetheless.
    - koheripbal 7y ago
      This is a complex topic, and is especially unclear when the person is not on US soil, so saying "judicial rulings since have generally enforced..." is not really accurate.
r721 7y ago
"3 things: vocal & active supporter of WL & Assange for 10yrs, was in a twitter DM group that incl @wikileaks, visited assange several times at the embassy" https://twitter.com/SomersetBean/status/1201620076383940610 https://twitter.com/SomersetBean/status/1201620076383940610
- wolco 7y ago
  Explains everything.
- mr_overalls 7y ago
  Yeah, physically visiting a potential Russian asset _in_the_London_embassy_ will get you more scrutiny from the DoJ. I have zero sympathy for this person.
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  - close04 7y ago
    > visiting a potential Russian asset That's unfair considering everybody is a potential asset to someone, whether the "good" or the "bad" guys.
    - cthalupa 7y ago
      Potential in this case is being used to indicate that there is significant evidence that he is a Russian asset, but that it has not been specifically proven. Not potential in 'well he has potential uses if he is an asset.' Perhaps a more specific phrase would have been 'suspected Russian asset'
      - whamlastxmas 7y ago
        There is zero credible evidence that Assange is working with the Russian government. Please stop spreading propaganda.
bigred100 7y ago
Is this guy a political dissident or something?
- shadowgovt 7y ago
  Suspected, it seems. Direct contact with Julian Assange.
  - bigred100 7y ago
    I’m not a lawyer but in this case that guy’s data getting sent to DoJ doesn’t really bother me...
    - krzepah 7y ago
      That's not how it should work. You could just go fish for anyone's data on the basis that he had a relation with someone that broke the law. Data should be protected just like the intel you are giving to your lawyer or your doctors. There is absolutely no reason a government should be able to simply catch your data without a reasonable cause. Knowing someone is NOT a reasonable cause. If they had proof that he did something that's a different story, but then they'd just catch him wouldn't they?
      - shadowgovt 7y ago
        > You could just go fish for anyone's data on the basis that he had a relation with someone that broke the law I believe what you're describing is the way the Prohibition-era gangs were broken up. It's a long-standing policy that this is acceptable policing in the US; it's not generally considered a fishing expedition if police investigate a person who associates frequently with a person they're building a criminal case on.
cco 7y ago
>Jokes aside, the only "connection" Bean has with that inquiry is one of association: not with Russia or Trump; but with WikiLeaks & Julian Assange. I'm not sure I understand this sentence, Wikileaks, Julian Assange, Russia, and Trump would all be very clearly part of an investigation into whether Trump's campaign sought a foreign government's help in influencing a presidential election. Am I missing something? I have no idea who this person on Twitter is or what their connection is with Wikileaks or Assange, i.e. did they donate once to Wikileaks in which case this seems crazy, or are they much more involved and thus their Google data would reasonably be included in any investigation into the matter? But it seems quite reasonable that if the latter is true that their data would be pulled for the Mueller investigation.
- nkrisc 7y ago
  Well according to later tweets they went so far as to meet with Assange in person while he was holed up in the embassy. That's certainly a step beyond just vocally supporting him on Twitter, at least.
  - cco 7y ago
    Ah, I didn't see that. Well then in that case this seems somewhat reasonable?
    - nkrisc 7y ago
      Enough to explain why data about his Google account might have been caught up in the investigation, perhaps.
- justincredible 7y ago
  Didn't the investigation end when the report was released?
gesman 7y ago
"SEALED v. SEALED"! I think you may politely respond with politically correct statement: I don't give a [REDACTED] and "SEALED" may go and [REDACTED] themselves in the [REDACTED].
- rvz 7y ago
  Well this is ■■■■■■ we are talking about and after all, this an ■■■■■■■■■■■■ issue anyway. Having ■■■■■■ run our lives like this and with the crowning of ■■■■■■ ■■■■■■ of ■■■■■■■■ and ■■■■■■, I don't see ■■■ changing or ■■■■■■ doing the same anytime soon. So as long as we all have ■■■■■■ ■■■■■■■■, we are all absolutely ■■■■■■■!
3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
> Oh it's "SEALED v. SEALED; Case is not available to the public." House members subpoena the call records of the president’s attorney, adversarial journalists, and other members of Congress. Secret FISA court warrants from known garbage “research”, and being involved in a lawsuits where you can’t even have proper legal representation because it’s all sealed. What a garbage time for justice today.
- aroch 7y ago
  Are you referring to the Steele dossier as "garbage 'research'"? If so, I don't quite understand your concept of garbage, given that much of it was proven correct. And I'd point out that the FBI says the dossier wasn't used for the FISA warrant. Cue the deep state conspiracy theories, I suppose....
zer0faith 7y ago
I can't help but feel like this person wants this type of attention.
- camdenlock 7y ago
  Attention is a powerful drug, and victimhood is an increasingly viable way to get a steady supply. None of which diminishes the underlying privacy and justice issues here, but yeah. Just look at the Twitter thread. Plenty of adoring fans.
AshwinDurairaj 7y ago
Does someone know if in cases like these Google will inform you why this happened?
- mzs 7y ago
  When/if the gag is lifted google does in fact notify the user with what it can.
leonixyz 7y ago
With regard to email services, I'm a happy Protonmail user. I recommend it to everybody. It's free and it allegedly stores only encrypted data on the servers. I try also to avoid spreading too much information while browsing by using some Firefox Add-ons like Noscript (set to block Google Analytics and others by default) and Cookie Autodestruct to allow persistent cookies only on Personal and Work tab containers. Mozilla is doing a pretty good job with privacy issues.
- bduerst 7y ago
  Does protonmail also ignore government subpoenas? Even the equivalent in the EU?
  - sharkflow 7y ago
    The answer you're looking for is... it depends: https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/ https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/ Details here: https://protonmail.com/fr/law-enforcement https://protonmail.com/fr/law-enforcement
    - bduerst 7y ago
      According to that link, Protonmail would observe and respond to a warrant from local government the same way Google does.
      - leonixyz 7y ago
        the difference is all data on protonmail servers is stored encrypted, and users have decryption keys in their client apps
agustif 7y ago
They were already listening on those embassy meetings though: https://www.globalresearch.ca/julian-assange-video-conference-spanish-case-takes-turn/5696557 https://www.globalresearch.ca/julian-assange-video-conferenc...
viridian 7y ago
Reading this comment thread hours after everyone else has posted, it sure is strange that a handful of individuals are defending the state from pretty much every objection by random commenters. I'm not a conspiracy guy, but this feels like when I watched the Hong Kong Blizzard protest, and you had all these guys named like "John Harrison" and "Alex Jeffries" spamming messages about how Tienanmen Square was just western propaganda. It feels like a couple of accounts pushing a specific agenda.

Ddin't know this person, now i know, the twitter account has lots of great info, thanks DOJ for bringing this into my attention.

slowenough 7y ago

At least the deep state now lets you know when you're under surveillance / of interest. This truly is progress. In the West usually you don't know. In China, you know. ∴ China > West. But now West is catching up. That's good. The deep state must exist, but if it's opaque, that's worse for individuals. This is a good thing. edit, to below: >> after arrest? you numbskull, the deep state doesn't deal in arrest. that's police and the courts. the deep state is covert surveillance, influence, blackmail, intimidation and harassment. in the West, everyone holds their tongue in the hope you go crazy. at least in China you know if you're a target of the security service. no gaslighting is better for individuals. further example is panoptikon facial recognition surveillance you jaywalk you get a WeChat fine immediately. That's a feedback loop it's actually good for the citizens better than the weird opaque West Germany stasi western-style covert harassment bullshit. but sure you willingly choose which oppressive psychological torture you prefer to live under. the one where the people pretend it's all in your head or the one where they actually let you know, yeah, you crossed the line. what do you think respects the individual more huh, pal? which has a higher asymmetry of power and therefore is more oppressive huh pal? not so clever now are you.

Fjolsvith 7y ago
China < West because of things that can happen to you after you are arrested. Especially things like fair trial, organ harvesting, etc.
- slowenough 7y ago
  Yaaawwn...Sorry pal, the failure to bring Epstein to justice ruins your favorite "West rule of law" bs. Betcha cant face that huh? edit: wow way to anger the herd! totally hit a nerve with the Epstein failure critique, nice! ∎ China deep state > West deep state
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loraa 7y ago

Time to run.

deogeo 7y ago

Can said information include everything gleaned from Google searches and pages with Google analytics? I.e. a full browsing history?

dangerface 7y ago
Yes, and gmail if you use, you'r gps/gsm cordinates over the past 3 years and more if you have an android phone. The scary thing as you pointed out with analytics, even if you have no google account google still hold data on you. If you use a private email server google still have a copy of every email you sent to gmail or received and will hand them over as its associated with you.
- leonixyz 7y ago
  What do you mean with "If you use a private email server google still have a copy of every email you [..] received"?
  - jlokier 7y ago
    I believe they mean: Even if you don't use gmail, but you correspond with other people who do use gmail, the other people's copies of your messages are linked to you and handed over. It's hard to avoid corresponding with other people who use gmail. But it's even harder, when you realise this includes people using their own private email domains that are handled by the gmail service without your knowledge. Many companies do this, even if it's just for the excellent spam filtering.
asdfasgasdgasdg 7y ago
Of course, in the event that you've asked Google to retain that data and the order compels its production.
tiborsaas 7y ago
Probably pretty much everything. Think like the party who requested it. They just accessed someone's private digital life, you think they will be shy asking for data? Location history, installed apps, photos, videos, Gmail, etc. best to assume they have a full export.

blfr 7y ago

Yandex has an excellent email hosting. Almost G Suite level. At least there would be some real Russian connection. https://connect.yandex.com/ https://connect.yandex.com/

jsmith99 7y ago
Yandex is actually a serious option. They allow you to use multiple personal domains for free. Main disadvantage is the occasional untranslated error message.
tiborsaas 7y ago
Do you happen to know a great North-Korean email provider? I've heard they treat IT security even stricter than Russians.
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- AndrewBissell 7y ago
  Yandex could be a reasonable alternative to GMail for anyone who's much more likely to quarrel with the US government than with the Russian. Which probably applies to most denizens of the West. Sure, it's not the best opsec, but at least you know that unlike Google, when the DoJ says "jump!" Yandex is not going to say "how high?"
  - monkeydreams 7y ago
    > Which probably applies to most denizens of the West. Most denizens of the West seem to like Western democracy and, well, Putin doesn't. So Russia doesn't. So Yandex doesn't. As one of the "denizens of the West" - we might hate on what the US does, but only because we believe it could do better. We have no such expectation of Putin.
- droithomme 7y ago
  I trust Russian and Chinese companies not to respond to US fishing expeditions violating my privacy more than I do US based companies. As far as someone spying on my emails, I get that no matter who I go with other than self-hosting.

campuscodi 7y ago

A PACER search didn't return anything for the case number referenced in the email. Although, the user did post an update later on: https://twitter.com/SomersetBean/status/1201913860745236481 https://twitter.com/SomersetBean/status/1201913860745236481

phyalow 7y ago
Still sealed?
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  [deleted]

mark_l_watson 7y ago

A little off topic, but as a US citizen, I find it chilling how strongly President Obama went after whistle blowers (as much as all previous presidents combined) and now President Trump is just as bad in this regard. Whistle blower and journalist legal protection is a hard requirement for a free and democratic republic.

Chris2048 7y ago
Which whistle blowers did Trump go after? The term is loaded, it implies a level of neutrality that we don't know exists in the impeachment case - we could just as well cause the official an "accuser".
- Miner49er 7y ago
  Reality Winner, Julian Assange, Chelsea Manning
  - tomschlick 7y ago
    Assange isn't a whistle-blower. He is a third party that was given classified information. Manning wasn't a whistle-blower either, he (at the time) was a leaker and didn't go through any of the official whistle-blower procedures to shield himself from prosecution. He also just data dumped everything he could find instead of leaking specific things.
    - Miner49er 7y ago
      Whistleblower: One who reveals wrongdoing within an organization to the public or to those in positions of authority. By that definition everyone I listed is a whistleblower. Also, FYI, you should use proper pronouns regardless of how they identified at the time. It's still a form of misgendering and unnecessarily brings up the fact that they are transgender.
      - tomschlick 7y ago

ykevinator 7y ago

Who is bean?

auiya 7y ago
An Australian/British graphic designer who has been making graphic design resources in support of WikiLeaks and Julian Assange for ~10 years[1]. [1]https://www.gofundme.com/f/aussies-bring-assange-home-posters https://www.gofundme.com/f/aussies-bring-assange-home-poster...

eyegor 7y ago

Nice, I see we're entering the new era of us surveillance. This guy was a public figure who associated with a party under investigation, he was not directly involved. In other words, a judge issued a gag order and a data handoff request on a private citizen to Google without probable cause. How could this be anything other than a fishing expedition?

fredgrott 7y ago
I am puzzled here...the desc does not match other stuff he did to trigger the judge order or is there other stuff you have not disclosed yet?
dangerface 7y ago
> a judge issued a gag order and a data handoff request on a private citizen to Google without probable cause They weren't a US citizen they where Australian so the judge didn't need probable cause. It is perfectly legal and that should make any foreigner question their relationship with America. Do we really want an ally that has proven them selves as totalitarian as China and is determined to spy on us?
- asdfasgasdgasdg 7y ago
  The constitution does not explicitly grant due process to non-citizens, but statutes and judicial rulings since have generally enforced that non-citizens have most of the same rights as citizens when it comes to criminal investigations. I don't think we know whether or not there was probable cause to believe a crime had been committed. We don't even know what sort of search order was granted. For example, maybe the account owner is not the subject of the investigation, but the account is believed to contain information that would be relevant nonetheless.
  - koheripbal 7y ago
    This is a complex topic, and is especially unclear when the person is not on US soil, so saying "judicial rulings since have generally enforced..." is not really accurate.

r721 7y ago

"3 things: vocal & active supporter of WL & Assange for 10yrs, was in a twitter DM group that incl @wikileaks, visited assange several times at the embassy" https://twitter.com/SomersetBean/status/1201620076383940610 https://twitter.com/SomersetBean/status/1201620076383940610

wolco 7y ago
Explains everything.
mr_overalls 7y ago
Yeah, physically visiting a potential Russian asset _in_the_London_embassy_ will get you more scrutiny from the DoJ. I have zero sympathy for this person.
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- close04 7y ago
  > visiting a potential Russian asset That's unfair considering everybody is a potential asset to someone, whether the "good" or the "bad" guys.
  - cthalupa 7y ago
    Potential in this case is being used to indicate that there is significant evidence that he is a Russian asset, but that it has not been specifically proven. Not potential in 'well he has potential uses if he is an asset.' Perhaps a more specific phrase would have been 'suspected Russian asset'
    - whamlastxmas 7y ago
      There is zero credible evidence that Assange is working with the Russian government. Please stop spreading propaganda.

bigred100 7y ago

Is this guy a political dissident or something?

shadowgovt 7y ago
Suspected, it seems. Direct contact with Julian Assange.
- bigred100 7y ago
  I’m not a lawyer but in this case that guy’s data getting sent to DoJ doesn’t really bother me...
  - krzepah 7y ago
    That's not how it should work. You could just go fish for anyone's data on the basis that he had a relation with someone that broke the law. Data should be protected just like the intel you are giving to your lawyer or your doctors. There is absolutely no reason a government should be able to simply catch your data without a reasonable cause. Knowing someone is NOT a reasonable cause. If they had proof that he did something that's a different story, but then they'd just catch him wouldn't they?
    - shadowgovt 7y ago
      > You could just go fish for anyone's data on the basis that he had a relation with someone that broke the law I believe what you're describing is the way the Prohibition-era gangs were broken up. It's a long-standing policy that this is acceptable policing in the US; it's not generally considered a fishing expedition if police investigate a person who associates frequently with a person they're building a criminal case on.

cco 7y ago

>Jokes aside, the only "connection" Bean has with that inquiry is one of association: not with Russia or Trump; but with WikiLeaks & Julian Assange. I'm not sure I understand this sentence, Wikileaks, Julian Assange, Russia, and Trump would all be very clearly part of an investigation into whether Trump's campaign sought a foreign government's help in influencing a presidential election. Am I missing something? I have no idea who this person on Twitter is or what their connection is with Wikileaks or Assange, i.e. did they donate once to Wikileaks in which case this seems crazy, or are they much more involved and thus their Google data would reasonably be included in any investigation into the matter? But it seems quite reasonable that if the latter is true that their data would be pulled for the Mueller investigation.

nkrisc 7y ago
Well according to later tweets they went so far as to meet with Assange in person while he was holed up in the embassy. That's certainly a step beyond just vocally supporting him on Twitter, at least.
- cco 7y ago
  Ah, I didn't see that. Well then in that case this seems somewhat reasonable?
  - nkrisc 7y ago
    Enough to explain why data about his Google account might have been caught up in the investigation, perhaps.
justincredible 7y ago
Didn't the investigation end when the report was released?

gesman 7y ago

"SEALED v. SEALED"! I think you may politely respond with politically correct statement: I don't give a [REDACTED] and "SEALED" may go and [REDACTED] themselves in the [REDACTED].

rvz 7y ago
Well this is ■■■■■■ we are talking about and after all, this an ■■■■■■■■■■■■ issue anyway. Having ■■■■■■ run our lives like this and with the crowning of ■■■■■■ ■■■■■■ of ■■■■■■■■ and ■■■■■■, I don't see ■■■ changing or ■■■■■■ doing the same anytime soon. So as long as we all have ■■■■■■ ■■■■■■■■, we are all absolutely ■■■■■■■!

3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago

> Oh it's "SEALED v. SEALED; Case is not available to the public." House members subpoena the call records of the president’s attorney, adversarial journalists, and other members of Congress. Secret FISA court warrants from known garbage “research”, and being involved in a lawsuits where you can’t even have proper legal representation because it’s all sealed. What a garbage time for justice today.

aroch 7y ago
Are you referring to the Steele dossier as "garbage 'research'"? If so, I don't quite understand your concept of garbage, given that much of it was proven correct. And I'd point out that the FBI says the dossier wasn't used for the FISA warrant. Cue the deep state conspiracy theories, I suppose....

zer0faith 7y ago

I can't help but feel like this person wants this type of attention.

camdenlock 7y ago
Attention is a powerful drug, and victimhood is an increasingly viable way to get a steady supply. None of which diminishes the underlying privacy and justice issues here, but yeah. Just look at the Twitter thread. Plenty of adoring fans.

AshwinDurairaj 7y ago

Does someone know if in cases like these Google will inform you why this happened?

mzs 7y ago
When/if the gag is lifted google does in fact notify the user with what it can.

leonixyz 7y ago

With regard to email services, I'm a happy Protonmail user. I recommend it to everybody. It's free and it allegedly stores only encrypted data on the servers. I try also to avoid spreading too much information while browsing by using some Firefox Add-ons like Noscript (set to block Google Analytics and others by default) and Cookie Autodestruct to allow persistent cookies only on Personal and Work tab containers. Mozilla is doing a pretty good job with privacy issues.

bduerst 7y ago
Does protonmail also ignore government subpoenas? Even the equivalent in the EU?
- sharkflow 7y ago
  The answer you're looking for is... it depends: https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/ https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/ Details here: https://protonmail.com/fr/law-enforcement https://protonmail.com/fr/law-enforcement
  - bduerst 7y ago
    According to that link, Protonmail would observe and respond to a warrant from local government the same way Google does.
    - leonixyz 7y ago
      the difference is all data on protonmail servers is stored encrypted, and users have decryption keys in their client apps

agustif 7y ago

They were already listening on those embassy meetings though: https://www.globalresearch.ca/julian-assange-video-conference-spanish-case-takes-turn/5696557 https://www.globalresearch.ca/julian-assange-video-conferenc...

viridian 7y ago

Reading this comment thread hours after everyone else has posted, it sure is strange that a handful of individuals are defending the state from pretty much every objection by random commenters. I'm not a conspiracy guy, but this feels like when I watched the Hong Kong Blizzard protest, and you had all these guys named like "John Harrison" and "Alex Jeffries" spamming messages about how Tienanmen Square was just western propaganda. It feels like a couple of accounts pushing a specific agenda.