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Full disclosure: I am the author of the Wikipedia essay "Wikipedia has cancer". See https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=21700802 https://news.ycombinator.com
by elect_engineer 7y ago
Full disclosure: I am the author of the Wikipedia essay "Wikipedia has cancer".
See https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=21700802 https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=21700802 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon/Wikipedia_has_Cancer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon/Wikipedia_has_C...
The WMF has no plans to sell out to a commercial outfit like Google or Facebook , but is it actually illegal for them to do so?
See https://money.cnn.com/2008/01/15/smbusiness/non_profit_sale.fsb/index.htm https://money.cnn.com/2008/01/15/smbusiness/non_profit_sale....
While it can be difficult to sell a nonprofit like Wikipedia to someone like Google or Facebook, it isn't impossible.
There are two ways that the commercial entity could get a court to agree with the sale and both of them start with the WMF screwing up so badly that they run out of money and need to either sell of shut down. We are nowhere near that, but it could happen in the future. I have talked this over with people who appear to know the law on this, but I am an engineer, not a lawyer. If a real lawyer replies, please ignore me and listen to them.
There are a couple of things the commercial entity could do to make it more likely to get approval from a court.
They could simply say that they are abandoning all of the federal and state tax exemptions that a nonprofit enjoys. The easy way to do this would be for the wikipedia.org domain to announce the end of wikipedia and tell everyone that they have accounts with the same usernames and passwords on the new wikipedia.google.com site which runs the exact same software and has the exact same content as the now-frozen wikipedia.com version. Add the usual "we don't plan on changing anything; we just want to save the now-failed wikipedia" language.
Or they could create a new, independent nonprofit with the same rules as the WMF has now but with funding by a generous donation from Google and fork the content as above. As above, the key to making this work is the existing Wikipedia running out of money and shutting down.
So, while it isn't going to happen any time soon, it isn't actually illegal.
- ASlave2Gravity 7y agoWhat can an every-person do to help keep Wikipedia free and open? Thank you for the essay btw.
- wikipedian2 7y agoDonate time, not money. Contribute as a volunteer.
- ASlave2Gravity 7y agoI've heard bad things about writing articles on Wikis. Lots of ego-wars. Not really sure it's worth my time? If it's a good place to be, I'm happy to help. EDIT: But I do trust it. So maybe it doesn't matter?
- Kaiyou 7y agoI trusted Wikipedia until I've read articles for which I knew aobut the topic beforehand, too. Now.. not anymore. Pretty sure the crazies with lots of times on their hand have won the editing wars.
- dharmon 7y agoThere's a music channel on YouTube that does "Fact or Fiction" with musicians, where they fact-check the person's Wikipedia page with them. Sometimes they don't even get through the first sentence before the person has to stop them with corrections.
- ASlave2Gravity 7y agoAnd thank you for the link. edit: sorry, was being a bit rude.
- DHPersonal 7y agoLoudwire — Wikipeda: Fact or Fiction? https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvXmarOi5xICV0X4HfMH7S29EpvDpTQgd https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvXmarOi5xICV0X4HfMH7S29E...
- dharmon 7y ago