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>Our plan is to live within the spirit of historic practice when it comes to pricing, which means, potentially, annual price increases of up to 10 percent on av

>Our plan is to live within the spirit of historic practice when it comes to pricing, which means, potentially, annual price increases of up to 10 percent on average – which today would equate to approximately $1 per year. This is very weasel worded way to say that price would double every 7.27 years... (and this is only "Our plan")

chii 7y ago
10% is at least 3x annual inflation rate. That's too much imho. Monopolies should be regulated - domain name administration is a natural monopoly.
- tehjoker 7y ago
  I would go further, they shouldn't be "regulated", this is a public service that should be run in the interests of society as a whole and not for the benefit of a private actor. We should have a tax funding mechanism, and run it either as a nationalized utility or through an international commission.
- shadowgovt 7y ago
  How so? There are a great many TLDs in the market.
  - chii 7y ago
    There's only 1 .org TLD - and it's meaning cannot be replicated with another TLD. It's the same as a TV series - there are great many TV series , but only 1 Game of Thrones on HBO, and it's not substitutable. Therefore, HBO has a monopoly on Game of Thrones.
    - shadowgovt 7y ago
      That's not at all how monopolies work, and nobody is going to break up HBO for having exclusive control of Game of Thrones. > and it's meaning cannot be replicated with another TLD. anything-org.us, anything-org.xyz, anything-org.com, or even just disregard bothering with .org entirely since it literally has no meaning; there's no enforcement on the soft policy that it represent non-profits. For example, slashdot.org is owned by BizX. Old-guard nerds have nostalgic attachment to the .org TLD's history; that's it. It's hardly a case that it's a monopoly.
      - ta0987 7y ago
        What if you already have a .org domain that you actually use? How would you like it if your phone company started charging you extra to keep your phone number, and told you, there's plenty of other phone numbers you can have, we won't charge extra for those
        shadowgovt 7y ago
        You mean "How did I like it when my email provider increased their rates?" I switched email providers and updated my email address with my relevant contacts. It was annoying, but nobody claims seriously that email providers are a monopoly.
        ta0987 7y ago
        Well, if this is a disagreement over the word "monopoly" I'll just cite wikipedia: Patents, copyrights, and trademarks are sometimes used as examples of government-granted monopolies. Third paragraph from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly So, yes, HBO does have a monopoly on Game of Thrones, and my email provider does have a monopoly on my email address. This is, for example, why they explicitly passed a phone number portability law, because phone companies were abusing their monopoly power over individual phone numbers, to keep people from switching to different providers.
        shadowgovt 7y ago
        Do you anticipate passage of an email or domain name monopoly law? Could such a thing be passed (i.e. what government would enforce it)?
        ta0987 7y ago
        No? I'm not sure what the relevance of that is though? I mean, it would certainly be right for the government to limit the increase in the cost of .org registrations to inflation, or better to cap the profit margin, since costs are likely to decrease, but just because it's right, doesn't mean it'll happen. .org domains are an artificial scarcity that wasn't even created by a corporation. At least the telephone was invented privately, so you could argue phone numbers are fair game, but with domain names even that argument doesn't hold. There's no reason a private company should be extracting economic-rent from it.
dorfsmay 7y ago
10% per year! That 3 to 4 times recent historic and near future projection for inflation rates.

chii 7y ago

10% is at least 3x annual inflation rate. That's too much imho. Monopolies should be regulated - domain name administration is a natural monopoly.

tehjoker 7y ago
I would go further, they shouldn't be "regulated", this is a public service that should be run in the interests of society as a whole and not for the benefit of a private actor. We should have a tax funding mechanism, and run it either as a nationalized utility or through an international commission.
shadowgovt 7y ago
How so? There are a great many TLDs in the market.
- chii 7y ago
  There's only 1 .org TLD - and it's meaning cannot be replicated with another TLD. It's the same as a TV series - there are great many TV series , but only 1 Game of Thrones on HBO, and it's not substitutable. Therefore, HBO has a monopoly on Game of Thrones.
  - shadowgovt 7y ago
    That's not at all how monopolies work, and nobody is going to break up HBO for having exclusive control of Game of Thrones. > and it's meaning cannot be replicated with another TLD. anything-org.us, anything-org.xyz, anything-org.com, or even just disregard bothering with .org entirely since it literally has no meaning; there's no enforcement on the soft policy that it represent non-profits. For example, slashdot.org is owned by BizX. Old-guard nerds have nostalgic attachment to the .org TLD's history; that's it. It's hardly a case that it's a monopoly.
    - ta0987 7y ago
      What if you already have a .org domain that you actually use? How would you like it if your phone company started charging you extra to keep your phone number, and told you, there's plenty of other phone numbers you can have, we won't charge extra for those
      - shadowgovt 7y ago
        You mean "How did I like it when my email provider increased their rates?" I switched email providers and updated my email address with my relevant contacts. It was annoying, but nobody claims seriously that email providers are a monopoly.
        ta0987 7y ago
        Well, if this is a disagreement over the word "monopoly" I'll just cite wikipedia: Patents, copyrights, and trademarks are sometimes used as examples of government-granted monopolies. Third paragraph from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly So, yes, HBO does have a monopoly on Game of Thrones, and my email provider does have a monopoly on my email address. This is, for example, why they explicitly passed a phone number portability law, because phone companies were abusing their monopoly power over individual phone numbers, to keep people from switching to different providers.
        shadowgovt 7y ago
        Do you anticipate passage of an email or domain name monopoly law? Could such a thing be passed (i.e. what government would enforce it)?
        ta0987 7y ago
        No? I'm not sure what the relevance of that is though? I mean, it would certainly be right for the government to limit the increase in the cost of .org registrations to inflation, or better to cap the profit margin, since costs are likely to decrease, but just because it's right, doesn't mean it'll happen. .org domains are an artificial scarcity that wasn't even created by a corporation. At least the telephone was invented privately, so you could argue phone numbers are fair game, but with domain names even that argument doesn't hold. There's no reason a private company should be extracting economic-rent from it.

dorfsmay 7y ago

10% per year! That 3 to 4 times recent historic and near future projection for inflation rates.