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Here’s the primary source: https://www.keypointsabout.org/blog/advancing-the-internet-societys-mission-into-the-future https://www.keypointsabout.org/blog/advan

Here’s the primary source: https://www.keypointsabout.org/blog/advancing-the-internet-societys-mission-into-the-future https://www.keypointsabout.org/blog/advancing-the-internet-s...

garaetjjte 7y ago
>Our plan is to live within the spirit of historic practice when it comes to pricing, which means, potentially, annual price increases of up to 10 percent on average – which today would equate to approximately $1 per year. This is very weasel worded way to say that price would double every 7.27 years... (and this is only "Our plan")
- chii 7y ago
  10% is at least 3x annual inflation rate. That's too much imho. Monopolies should be regulated - domain name administration is a natural monopoly.
  - tehjoker 7y ago
    I would go further, they shouldn't be "regulated", this is a public service that should be run in the interests of society as a whole and not for the benefit of a private actor. We should have a tax funding mechanism, and run it either as a nationalized utility or through an international commission.
  - shadowgovt 7y ago
    How so? There are a great many TLDs in the market.
    - chii 7y ago
      There's only 1 .org TLD - and it's meaning cannot be replicated with another TLD. It's the same as a TV series - there are great many TV series , but only 1 Game of Thrones on HBO, and it's not substitutable. Therefore, HBO has a monopoly on Game of Thrones.
      - shadowgovt 7y ago
        That's not at all how monopolies work, and nobody is going to break up HBO for having exclusive control of Game of Thrones. > and it's meaning cannot be replicated with another TLD. anything-org.us, anything-org.xyz, anything-org.com, or even just disregard bothering with .org entirely since it literally has no meaning; there's no enforcement on the soft policy that it represent non-profits. For example, slashdot.org is owned by BizX. Old-guard nerds have nostalgic attachment to the .org TLD's history; that's it. It's hardly a case that it's a monopoly.
        ta0987 7y ago
        What if you already have a .org domain that you actually use? How would you like it if your phone company started charging you extra to keep your phone number, and told you, there's plenty of other phone numbers you can have, we won't charge extra for those
        shadowgovt 7y ago
        You mean "How did I like it when my email provider increased their rates?" I switched email providers and updated my email address with my relevant contacts. It was annoying, but nobody claims seriously that email providers are a monopoly.
        ta0987 7y ago
        Well, if this is a disagreement over the word "monopoly" I'll just cite wikipedia: Patents, copyrights, and trademarks are sometimes used as examples of government-granted monopolies. Third paragraph from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly So, yes, HBO does have a monopoly on Game of Thrones, and my email provider does have a monopoly on my email address. This is, for example, why they explicitly passed a phone number portability law, because phone companies were abusing their monopoly power over individual phone numbers, to keep people from switching to different providers.
- dorfsmay 7y ago
  10% per year! That 3 to 4 times recent historic and near future projection for inflation rates.
wmf 7y ago
"The Internet Society will receive this as a fund that it will invest as an endowment... This funding is sufficient to provide the Internet Society with broadly equivalent annual earnings we currently receive from PIR. And through responsible, well managed investment, we believe this fund will provide a comparable level of funding to the Internet Society in perpetuity." Translation: "We sold the Internet to vultures (super-nice vultures! you won't believe how nice they are!) so that we could have... basically the same cash flow that we already had. But now we're going to deal with bankers instead of Afilias."
- steve19 7y ago
  "Our mission is to support and promote the development of the Internet around the world — an Internet that is open, globally connected, secure, and trustworthy." Prediction: they will achieve nothing, at all, whatsoever. Everyone who voted for this should be ashamed of themselves.
- shadowgovt 7y ago
  The .org TLD isn't "The Internet."
  - wmf 7y ago
    Hey, give it time. Maybe next they'll sell the IETF to Cisco for another billion.
- FireBeyond 7y ago
  I wonder how good their investment strategy is that 1.1B will earn them $120M/year in income, that's nearly 11% return...
  - wmf 7y ago
    No, it sounds like they're aiming for $50M/year.
    - FireBeyond 7y ago
dang 7y ago
Changed to that from http://netpolicynews.com/index.php/89-r/1166-1-300-000-000-to-internet-society-if-org-deal-goes-down http://netpolicynews.com/index.php/89-r/1166-1-300-000-000-t.... Thanks!

Here’s the primary source: https://www.keypointsabout.org/blog/advancing-the-internet-societys-mission-into-the-future https://www.keypointsabout.org/blog/advancing-the-internet-s...

garaetjjte 7y ago

>Our plan is to live within the spirit of historic practice when it comes to pricing, which means, potentially, annual price increases of up to 10 percent on average – which today would equate to approximately $1 per year. This is very weasel worded way to say that price would double every 7.27 years... (and this is only "Our plan")

chii 7y ago
10% is at least 3x annual inflation rate. That's too much imho. Monopolies should be regulated - domain name administration is a natural monopoly.
- tehjoker 7y ago
  I would go further, they shouldn't be "regulated", this is a public service that should be run in the interests of society as a whole and not for the benefit of a private actor. We should have a tax funding mechanism, and run it either as a nationalized utility or through an international commission.
- shadowgovt 7y ago
  How so? There are a great many TLDs in the market.
  - chii 7y ago
    There's only 1 .org TLD - and it's meaning cannot be replicated with another TLD. It's the same as a TV series - there are great many TV series , but only 1 Game of Thrones on HBO, and it's not substitutable. Therefore, HBO has a monopoly on Game of Thrones.
    - shadowgovt 7y ago
      That's not at all how monopolies work, and nobody is going to break up HBO for having exclusive control of Game of Thrones. > and it's meaning cannot be replicated with another TLD. anything-org.us, anything-org.xyz, anything-org.com, or even just disregard bothering with .org entirely since it literally has no meaning; there's no enforcement on the soft policy that it represent non-profits. For example, slashdot.org is owned by BizX. Old-guard nerds have nostalgic attachment to the .org TLD's history; that's it. It's hardly a case that it's a monopoly.
      - ta0987 7y ago
        What if you already have a .org domain that you actually use? How would you like it if your phone company started charging you extra to keep your phone number, and told you, there's plenty of other phone numbers you can have, we won't charge extra for those
        shadowgovt 7y ago
        You mean "How did I like it when my email provider increased their rates?" I switched email providers and updated my email address with my relevant contacts. It was annoying, but nobody claims seriously that email providers are a monopoly.
        ta0987 7y ago
        Well, if this is a disagreement over the word "monopoly" I'll just cite wikipedia: Patents, copyrights, and trademarks are sometimes used as examples of government-granted monopolies. Third paragraph from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly So, yes, HBO does have a monopoly on Game of Thrones, and my email provider does have a monopoly on my email address. This is, for example, why they explicitly passed a phone number portability law, because phone companies were abusing their monopoly power over individual phone numbers, to keep people from switching to different providers.
dorfsmay 7y ago
10% per year! That 3 to 4 times recent historic and near future projection for inflation rates.

wmf 7y ago

"The Internet Society will receive this as a fund that it will invest as an endowment... This funding is sufficient to provide the Internet Society with broadly equivalent annual earnings we currently receive from PIR. And through responsible, well managed investment, we believe this fund will provide a comparable level of funding to the Internet Society in perpetuity." Translation: "We sold the Internet to vultures (super-nice vultures! you won't believe how nice they are!) so that we could have... basically the same cash flow that we already had. But now we're going to deal with bankers instead of Afilias."

steve19 7y ago
"Our mission is to support and promote the development of the Internet around the world — an Internet that is open, globally connected, secure, and trustworthy." Prediction: they will achieve nothing, at all, whatsoever. Everyone who voted for this should be ashamed of themselves.
shadowgovt 7y ago
The .org TLD isn't "The Internet."
- wmf 7y ago
  Hey, give it time. Maybe next they'll sell the IETF to Cisco for another billion.
FireBeyond 7y ago
I wonder how good their investment strategy is that 1.1B will earn them $120M/year in income, that's nearly 11% return...
- wmf 7y ago
  No, it sounds like they're aiming for $50M/year.
  - FireBeyond 7y ago

dang 7y ago

Changed to that from http://netpolicynews.com/index.php/89-r/1166-1-300-000-000-to-internet-society-if-org-deal-goes-down http://netpolicynews.com/index.php/89-r/1166-1-300-000-000-t.... Thanks!