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This is where I get annoyed at Tesla. Everything is a wear and tear part. When I was considering a Model3 they harped on how reliable it would be. I still pas

This is where I get annoyed at Tesla. Everything is a wear and tear part. When I was considering a Model3 they harped on how reliable it would be. I still passed.

Jamwinner 7y ago
Yup. The ICE engine reliability issue is more or less solved. I have built hotrodded engines in my garage that are still going strong at 275,000 miles. The real issue is that tesla reinvented the wheel with everything else too. Other solved problems like rustproofing, doorseals, and component access were overlooked for technology adoption. I admire the bold move, but it was not one destined for reliability. At the end of the day, the tesla is more complex, even in the drivetrain, than my honda civic, and costs quite a lot more, even under ideal conditions.
- WhompingWindows 7y ago
  Sorry, how is the Tesla more complex in the drive train than a Honda Civic? The sheer number of moving parts in the Civic makes your argument highly questionable...
WhompingWindows 7y ago
Don't they crack down on parts suppliers? Why can't they operate a warehouse and keep spare parts for all their loyal, early adopter customers?
mister_hn 7y ago
You haven't seen any recent Mercedes Benz then. Full of electronics, if something breaks up, you're screwed. Only the gearbox (automatic) will cost you not less than 8000€. ECU fails? Add 5000€
- RaceWon 7y ago
  > You haven't seen any recent Mercedes Benz then. Full of electronics I had to dump an 09 VW GTI (I'm in the US) about four years ago with only 60K miles on it. The ABS computer failed; a $4k repair. As a side note I traded it for a new 2016 Jetta Sport; which was the worst car I ever had, and the last VW I'll ever buy. I traded the Jetta for a 2019 Hyundai Kona which I like but you can't drive it with the forward collision system engaged. I had always shut that off from day 1.... except a month ago I didn't and that sucker SLAMMED on the brakes when I was lane merging during a busy time--I was Not being aggressive just assertive. Only by luck no one slammed into the back of me. I can't imagine Anyone trusting their lives to a self-driving car.. it makes no logical sense to do that!

This is where I get annoyed at Tesla. Everything is a wear and tear part. When I was considering a Model3 they harped on how reliable it would be. I still passed.

Jamwinner 7y ago

Yup. The ICE engine reliability issue is more or less solved. I have built hotrodded engines in my garage that are still going strong at 275,000 miles. The real issue is that tesla reinvented the wheel with everything else too. Other solved problems like rustproofing, doorseals, and component access were overlooked for technology adoption. I admire the bold move, but it was not one destined for reliability. At the end of the day, the tesla is more complex, even in the drivetrain, than my honda civic, and costs quite a lot more, even under ideal conditions.

WhompingWindows 7y ago
Sorry, how is the Tesla more complex in the drive train than a Honda Civic? The sheer number of moving parts in the Civic makes your argument highly questionable...

WhompingWindows 7y ago

Don't they crack down on parts suppliers? Why can't they operate a warehouse and keep spare parts for all their loyal, early adopter customers?

mister_hn 7y ago

You haven't seen any recent Mercedes Benz then. Full of electronics, if something breaks up, you're screwed. Only the gearbox (automatic) will cost you not less than 8000€. ECU fails? Add 5000€

RaceWon 7y ago
> You haven't seen any recent Mercedes Benz then. Full of electronics I had to dump an 09 VW GTI (I'm in the US) about four years ago with only 60K miles on it. The ABS computer failed; a $4k repair. As a side note I traded it for a new 2016 Jetta Sport; which was the worst car I ever had, and the last VW I'll ever buy. I traded the Jetta for a 2019 Hyundai Kona which I like but you can't drive it with the forward collision system engaged. I had always shut that off from day 1.... except a month ago I didn't and that sucker SLAMMED on the brakes when I was lane merging during a busy time--I was Not being aggressive just assertive. Only by luck no one slammed into the back of me. I can't imagine Anyone trusting their lives to a self-driving car.. it makes no logical sense to do that!