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TL;DW?

agilebyte 7y ago
Intel let reviewers go live with their Core i9 10980XE reviews half a day before Threadripper 3970X/3960X was able to go live (that was planned for a while) so that early reviewers wouldn't be able to compare it against the (superior) AMD offering. Linus just blurs the Threadripper benchmark values in the charts and tells you to watch the upcoming review...
superasn 7y ago
Intel rushed their new CPU's to come out before AMD's new CPU's. So they can only compare these new intel CPU's to the older, slower AMD CPU's, making intel look better in comparison. THIS is important BECAUSE its ALWAYS the first reviews that gets the most attention, they will be the first results in any search because they have more views. and they can only compare to the old AMD stuff because its not out yet. SO intel is trying to fool uninformed people, into thinking their stuff is better then it is, its a dirty tactic, because most people won't know the difference, they'll search for the intel CPU see the reviews showing how it performs against the old stuff and think its better then the current Threadripper. basically what they always do, sneaky tactics to get more mindshare against their competition instead of making better products. Original comment by "xenonnati" (https://tinyurl.com/tygknwt https://tinyurl.com/tygknwt)
- tracker1 7y ago
  In this case, I'm seeing a lot of similar responses and some simply waiting to push comparative data to later in the day release. I'd be surprised if most articles don't footnote the newer Threadripper chips or update their articles. I've seen very few articles not comparing or mentioning them at the very least. Especially since most reviewers already had them for comparison. Actual 3950X stock seems to have been harder to come by.
- jbob2000 7y ago
  That's not a dirty tactic at all, that's just how you compete, it's called first-to-market. They're not trying to fool anyone, they just have a product on the market that's better than the other products on the market at this point in time.
  - fithisux 7y ago
    That's a dirty tactic no matter how you sugar it.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
  So basically some reviewers are angry because they're "forced" by the market to release reviews before they get all the data or they'll lose out on money. Yet somehow, we're supposed to blame Intel for releasing their product from embargo early in order to make more money.
  - marcosdumay 7y ago
    Well, there is a shitty rule enforced by the "market" (the "market" is named Google, by they way, I guess we can use its real name), and Intel is exploiting it to misinform their consumers. So yes, Intel act is shady. Google and the reviewers also are, but it does not exonerate Intel.
wlesieutre 7y ago
Reviewers want to publish their reviews immediately when they're allowed to, or else they'll lose views (and income) to other reviewers that published first. Intel, knowing they won't look good compared to the new AMD processors, set their embargo to end a couple of hours in advance of AMDs. Since they scheduled it this way, the initial reviews of Intel's processors aren't allowed to talk about the AMD processors yet. They can't include benchmarks comparing Intel's new chip against the competition released on the same day. Said benchmarks look pretty rough for Intel.

TL;DW?

Intel let reviewers go live with their Core i9 10980XE reviews half a day before Threadripper 3970X/3960X was able to go live (that was planned for a while) so that early reviewers wouldn't be able to compare it against the (superior) AMD offering. Linus just blurs the Threadripper benchmark values in the charts and tells you to watch the upcoming review...

superasn 7y ago

Intel rushed their new CPU's to come out before AMD's new CPU's. So they can only compare these new intel CPU's to the older, slower AMD CPU's, making intel look better in comparison. THIS is important BECAUSE its ALWAYS the first reviews that gets the most attention, they will be the first results in any search because they have more views. and they can only compare to the old AMD stuff because its not out yet. SO intel is trying to fool uninformed people, into thinking their stuff is better then it is, its a dirty tactic, because most people won't know the difference, they'll search for the intel CPU see the reviews showing how it performs against the old stuff and think its better then the current Threadripper. basically what they always do, sneaky tactics to get more mindshare against their competition instead of making better products. Original comment by "xenonnati" (https://tinyurl.com/tygknwt https://tinyurl.com/tygknwt)

tracker1 7y ago
In this case, I'm seeing a lot of similar responses and some simply waiting to push comparative data to later in the day release. I'd be surprised if most articles don't footnote the newer Threadripper chips or update their articles. I've seen very few articles not comparing or mentioning them at the very least. Especially since most reviewers already had them for comparison. Actual 3950X stock seems to have been harder to come by.
jbob2000 7y ago
That's not a dirty tactic at all, that's just how you compete, it's called first-to-market. They're not trying to fool anyone, they just have a product on the market that's better than the other products on the market at this point in time.
- fithisux 7y ago
  That's a dirty tactic no matter how you sugar it.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
So basically some reviewers are angry because they're "forced" by the market to release reviews before they get all the data or they'll lose out on money. Yet somehow, we're supposed to blame Intel for releasing their product from embargo early in order to make more money.
- marcosdumay 7y ago
  Well, there is a shitty rule enforced by the "market" (the "market" is named Google, by they way, I guess we can use its real name), and Intel is exploiting it to misinform their consumers. So yes, Intel act is shady. Google and the reviewers also are, but it does not exonerate Intel.

wlesieutre 7y ago

Reviewers want to publish their reviews immediately when they're allowed to, or else they'll lose views (and income) to other reviewers that published first. Intel, knowing they won't look good compared to the new AMD processors, set their embargo to end a couple of hours in advance of AMDs. Since they scheduled it this way, the initial reviews of Intel's processors aren't allowed to talk about the AMD processors yet. They can't include benchmarks comparing Intel's new chip against the competition released on the same day. Said benchmarks look pretty rough for Intel.