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Hardly ridiculous. Marijuana is still illegal at the federal level but might as well be considered legal at this point. No one is going to go to jail because y

by tempsy 7y ago

Hardly ridiculous. Marijuana is still illegal at the federal level but might as well be considered legal at this point. No one is going to go to jail because you purchased a small amount of drugs. If you are the seller it's a different story.

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wallace_f 7y ago
That's obnoxiously ignorant. Even in high school one of my friends had their house raided and electronics, other valuables consfiscated. A dealer scapegoated him, and he had been searched and found with a pipe with resin in it. He carried the pipe to be cool. He had smoked weed less than 5 times at that point. I have other friends with criminal records for minute quantitites of personal use marijuana.
givinguflac 7y ago
I’ve been to jail for a small amount of MJ. The chain of custody and the purity/contamination of a plant is much easier to track, then something like a powder a pill or liquid. There is literally no circumstance where I would trust something that wasn’t a plant on the black market
- tempsy 7y ago
  Everyone has a different risk tolerance. People use LSD, ketamine, and shrooms all the time.
- throwaway837373 7y ago
  Ehrlich's reagent will tell you if you have something in at least the same chemical family as LSD, which rules out almost all of the dangerous substances that are sometimes sold as "LSD."
dfalfndfk 7y ago
If you are a person of colour in America you're definitely at risk.
lazyasciiart 7y ago
> An estimated 137,000 people are in prison today on a basic drug-possession charge. Approximately 65% of them sit in local jails, and most of them have yet to actually be accused of a crime. These unfortunate individuals may have to wait months to get their day in court because of their inability to post bail. https://www.marijuanabreak.com/going-to-prison-for-marijuana-possession https://www.marijuanabreak.com/going-to-prison-for-marijuana...
- tempsy 7y ago
  It isn't risk-free, but the risk is low. Michael Pollen literally wrote a best selling book about taking LSD, eating shrooms, etc. earlier this year.
  - lazyasciiart 7y ago
    The risk has a pretty high relationship with the color of your skin.
astura 7y ago
I'm sorry but "why does something being illegal prevent you from doing it?" is a ridiculous question. Even if you start with the premise nobody is going to jail (which is blatantly untrue - I personally know people with possession charges), getting caught with small amounts of drugs can ruin the careers of some people, including my own career. Think people who must hold a professional licence, people who are subject to background checks (including coders who work at medium to large companies), people who work with children, people who work in certain safety critical industries, people who hold security clearances, etc. There was an FBI agent who was fired recently for testing positive for thc from using CBD oil, the federal government's position is there's no legitimate reason to test positive for thc.
- tempsy 7y ago
  You're referring to your own risk tolerance that is unfounded in most modern workplaces. If you work in tech absolutely no employer does drug tests for employment. People talk about microdosing LSD openly. Michael Pollen wrote a best selling book about his experience with psychedelics earlier this year. Tim Ferris funded a research institute at John Hopkins and talks about it on his podcast all the time. Unless you work for the federal gov't you're catastrophizing the risk.
  - metalchianti 7y ago
    There is still some risk. I think you're forgetting that (1) illegal drugs are hard to obtainn--no walking into CVS--and (2) illegal drugs are not reliably sourced--I trust mass manufactured marijuana far more than I do from the sketchy guy on the corner.
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    - 19793378 7y ago
      > I trust mass manufactured marijuana There is no such thing as "mass manufactured marijuana." The closest thing to "manufactured" is synthetic cannabinoids, which at this point you absolutely should not trust because side-effects and even LD50 have not been established for most of them. Even in American states that have legalized the sale, marijuana is still grown and sourced haphazardly. Everything from hydroponics in warehouses, to backyard farms, to illegal farming in state/national park lands (yes, this still happens!).
fiblye 7y ago
> No one is going to go to jail because you purchased a small amount of drugs. What world are you living in? Drug possession is one of the most common reasons for being arrested. https://www.bjs.gov/content/dcf/enforce.cfm https://www.bjs.gov/content/dcf/enforce.cfm
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wallace_f 7y ago

That's obnoxiously ignorant. Even in high school one of my friends had their house raided and electronics, other valuables consfiscated. A dealer scapegoated him, and he had been searched and found with a pipe with resin in it. He carried the pipe to be cool. He had smoked weed less than 5 times at that point. I have other friends with criminal records for minute quantitites of personal use marijuana.

givinguflac 7y ago

I’ve been to jail for a small amount of MJ. The chain of custody and the purity/contamination of a plant is much easier to track, then something like a powder a pill or liquid. There is literally no circumstance where I would trust something that wasn’t a plant on the black market

tempsy 7y ago
Everyone has a different risk tolerance. People use LSD, ketamine, and shrooms all the time.
throwaway837373 7y ago
Ehrlich's reagent will tell you if you have something in at least the same chemical family as LSD, which rules out almost all of the dangerous substances that are sometimes sold as "LSD."

dfalfndfk 7y ago

If you are a person of colour in America you're definitely at risk.

lazyasciiart 7y ago

> An estimated 137,000 people are in prison today on a basic drug-possession charge. Approximately 65% of them sit in local jails, and most of them have yet to actually be accused of a crime. These unfortunate individuals may have to wait months to get their day in court because of their inability to post bail. https://www.marijuanabreak.com/going-to-prison-for-marijuana-possession https://www.marijuanabreak.com/going-to-prison-for-marijuana...

tempsy 7y ago
It isn't risk-free, but the risk is low. Michael Pollen literally wrote a best selling book about taking LSD, eating shrooms, etc. earlier this year.
- lazyasciiart 7y ago
  The risk has a pretty high relationship with the color of your skin.

astura 7y ago

I'm sorry but "why does something being illegal prevent you from doing it?" is a ridiculous question. Even if you start with the premise nobody is going to jail (which is blatantly untrue - I personally know people with possession charges), getting caught with small amounts of drugs can ruin the careers of some people, including my own career. Think people who must hold a professional licence, people who are subject to background checks (including coders who work at medium to large companies), people who work with children, people who work in certain safety critical industries, people who hold security clearances, etc. There was an FBI agent who was fired recently for testing positive for thc from using CBD oil, the federal government's position is there's no legitimate reason to test positive for thc.

tempsy 7y ago
You're referring to your own risk tolerance that is unfounded in most modern workplaces. If you work in tech absolutely no employer does drug tests for employment. People talk about microdosing LSD openly. Michael Pollen wrote a best selling book about his experience with psychedelics earlier this year. Tim Ferris funded a research institute at John Hopkins and talks about it on his podcast all the time. Unless you work for the federal gov't you're catastrophizing the risk.
- metalchianti 7y ago
  There is still some risk. I think you're forgetting that (1) illegal drugs are hard to obtainn--no walking into CVS--and (2) illegal drugs are not reliably sourced--I trust mass manufactured marijuana far more than I do from the sketchy guy on the corner.
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  - 19793378 7y ago
    > I trust mass manufactured marijuana There is no such thing as "mass manufactured marijuana." The closest thing to "manufactured" is synthetic cannabinoids, which at this point you absolutely should not trust because side-effects and even LD50 have not been established for most of them. Even in American states that have legalized the sale, marijuana is still grown and sourced haphazardly. Everything from hydroponics in warehouses, to backyard farms, to illegal farming in state/national park lands (yes, this still happens!).

fiblye 7y ago

> No one is going to go to jail because you purchased a small amount of drugs. What world are you living in? Drug possession is one of the most common reasons for being arrested. https://www.bjs.gov/content/dcf/enforce.cfm https://www.bjs.gov/content/dcf/enforce.cfm

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