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As we move to electric over the next few decades, I wonder what we're going to do with all the ICE vehicles that are on the road now? There's going to be a tipp
by russellbeattie 7y ago
As we move to electric over the next few decades, I wonder what we're going to do with all the ICE vehicles that are on the road now? There's going to be a tipping point where finding a gasoline station will be hard. There are a lot of gas stations, so this is going to be pretty huge by itself. Some states may go as far as banning ICE vehicles all together.
I guess we already churn through a huge amount of cars yearly as it is... I don't see many 1979 Plymouths on the road. They must have been all chopped up at some point, so this is probably a non issue. That said, I can't imagine the transition will be without pain for lots of people...
- TrueGeek 7y agoI have an old 1967 car that I like to drive a couple times a week so I wonder about this as well. I think the bans will start in the cities (they already have) but it will take a while before ICE vehicles are gone from the areas far from large cities.
- sokoloff 7y agoI’m 48 and don’t expect the premise of Rush’s Red Barchetta to become a reality in my lifetime.
- RickJWagner 7y agoYeah. I'm a car enthusiast, have long dreamed of the day retirement approaches and I can have a cool hobby car. But lately I'm thinking maybe it'll be one of those fast, 2 motor electrics. Probably a lot more reliable, and faster too.
- WalterBright 7y ago> Probably a lot more reliable, and faster too. Yeah, but cars that don't buck, snort and belch fire are boring.
- asudosandwich 7y agoReminds me of the Beetle with aftermarket afterburner http://www.ronpatrickstuff.com/ http://www.ronpatrickstuff.com/
- cagenut 7y agoCars in the US last on average 17 years, though there is a long tail that stretches out 25 and 30 years (mostly for "light trucks"). If we assume the goal is <1% ICE vehicles on the road by 2050, then we need all new cars to be electric by 2033 at the latest, and 2020 to be sure.
- Scoundreller 7y agoNot in the salt belt! I think we should have a system where cars spend their first 5 years in the north or south, and then spend the rest of their life in the other. 5 years of salt won’t kill a car, but 10+ will.
- dokem 7y agoOff topic but why does hn use the term ICE vehicle rather than gas vehicle? It comes across as forced like when a non tech person is trying to impress me with buzz words and I’m just like no one talks like that in the industry.
- enjeyw 7y agoComing from a country that refers to ‘gas’ as ‘petrol’, ‘gas vehicle’ sounds far more awkward than ‘ICE vehicle’ - makes me think of a car running on LPG
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- WalterBright 7y ago> rather than gas vehicle Probably the same reason you use "vehicle" rather than "car".
- mdorazio 7y agoIt's more than just "gas" - also diesel and LNG. It's generally easier to just use the blanket category ICE.
- calewis 7y agoBecause the thing people generally put in a car is a liquid, called petrol, not a gas.
- esotericn 7y ago'Gas' is an americanism. Europeans would say 'petrol or diesel' car, which is annoying, so ICE it is.
- mikestew 7y agoBecause my ICE recreational vehicle doesn’t run on gas.
- yardie 7y agoBecause the term applies to vehicles that don't necessarily use gas. Diesel, LNG, CNG are also ICE.
- upofadown 7y agoIt turns out that cars in general have serious downsides (at least in large quantities). I predict that the first bans of ICE cars will actually be bans of all cars in certain parts of cities.
- wavefunction 7y agoBanning cars has already happened: https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/sep/18/paradise-life-spanish-city-banned-cars-pontevedra https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/sep/18/paradise-life...
- Scoundreller 7y agoWhere the real estate is valuable, gas stations are already going dodo. Production will slow and ICE will go where they still work well: vehicles that don’t move much, so the savings of E don’t make up their capitalized price. And cold weather environments. Or where the grid is a recommendation rather than a dependency.