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> identifying the bugs that junior developers have written Bugs are written by all seniority levels of engineers. “To err is human,” after all. Junior develope

> identifying the bugs that junior developers have written Bugs are written by all seniority levels of engineers. “To err is human,” after all. Junior developers hold no monopoly on mistakes.

dmm 7y ago
>> identifying the bugs that junior developers have written > Bugs are written by all seniority levels of engineers. Sure but the Senior devs are too arrogant to ask for help ;)
- to11mtm 7y ago
  Sounds more like a mid level dev. IME Seniors aren't afraid to ask for help when it makes sense to.
Kalium 7y ago
If anything, it's been my experience that the bugs from the junior devs are often more obvious and easier to fix. Any junior dev can make a minor logic error. It takes a senior dev to mis-architect a whole system.
- Aeolun 7y ago
  Junior devs can absolutely mis-architect a system if you give them enough leeway because they’re described to you as senior developers.
- rurban 7y ago
  Normally it's the mid-level dev who mis-architects a system. It's called overarchitecturing. Seniors rarely overarchitecture.
  - watwut 7y ago
    Seniors both over architecture and underarchitecture.
    - rriepe 7y ago
      Yeah, I've found this to be more of a personality thing. Seniors just learn more tricks to get away with whichever way they lean.
- jkoudys 7y ago
  True, but there's no award for how obvious the average bug is. I've also found we often reach huge problems after being distracted by a bunch of minor sloppiness. Submit a PR that has a serious flaw in it, but is otherwise top-quality, and people may find that flaw. Submit the same PR, but name every variable "data" or "value", change every constant to an uncommented magic number, and cram in some jQuery functions even though it's deprecated in your project, and reviewers will happily point out all those things while completely missing the serious flaw.
ledauphin 7y ago
Of course! But I'm addressing how senior developers spend their _time_. They don't often spend lots of time helping with bugs written by other senior developers.

> identifying the bugs that junior developers have written Bugs are written by all seniority levels of engineers. “To err is human,” after all. Junior developers hold no monopoly on mistakes.

dmm 7y ago

>> identifying the bugs that junior developers have written > Bugs are written by all seniority levels of engineers. Sure but the Senior devs are too arrogant to ask for help ;)

to11mtm 7y ago
Sounds more like a mid level dev. IME Seniors aren't afraid to ask for help when it makes sense to.

Kalium 7y ago

If anything, it's been my experience that the bugs from the junior devs are often more obvious and easier to fix. Any junior dev can make a minor logic error. It takes a senior dev to mis-architect a whole system.

Aeolun 7y ago
Junior devs can absolutely mis-architect a system if you give them enough leeway because they’re described to you as senior developers.
rurban 7y ago
Normally it's the mid-level dev who mis-architects a system. It's called overarchitecturing. Seniors rarely overarchitecture.
- watwut 7y ago
  Seniors both over architecture and underarchitecture.
  - rriepe 7y ago
    Yeah, I've found this to be more of a personality thing. Seniors just learn more tricks to get away with whichever way they lean.
jkoudys 7y ago
True, but there's no award for how obvious the average bug is. I've also found we often reach huge problems after being distracted by a bunch of minor sloppiness. Submit a PR that has a serious flaw in it, but is otherwise top-quality, and people may find that flaw. Submit the same PR, but name every variable "data" or "value", change every constant to an uncommented magic number, and cram in some jQuery functions even though it's deprecated in your project, and reviewers will happily point out all those things while completely missing the serious flaw.

ledauphin 7y ago

Of course! But I'm addressing how senior developers spend their _time_. They don't often spend lots of time helping with bugs written by other senior developers.