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This person is the most cited scientist in machine learning (when measured by # citations per year) and is about to become the most cited scientist in the whole

This person is the most cited scientist in machine learning (when measured by # citations per year) and is about to become the most cited scientist in the whole world. He has a lab of about 100 people and most of his works are at least good. I just provided an estimated. Once you see his citations count has saturated (probably in 5-10 years), you may guess that the hype is over.

xamuel 7y ago
Sounds like someone reeeeeallly good at nudging envelopes and writing grant proposals. Will be mostly forgotten a couple hundred years from now. Academic playwrights thought Shakespeare was a joke in his day.
- account73466 7y ago
  "a couple hundred years from now" by whom? He contributed to AI, will not be forgotten by AI. Edit: if you don't get what I mean by "not be forgotten", he will be the most cited scientist so why AI will exclude all his papers from some of its training sets (assuming that at least some stage of AI's development it will learn how humans do research)? Sounds unlikely.
  - xamuel 7y ago
    By human beings. And he did not contribute to AI capable of contemplating human research like a human does, because no such AI exists yet. When it does exist (if ever), it will surely not consider this person or his hundred lab workers to have contributed to AI. It will consider them to have contributed to applied statistics. Edit: I realized these comments might be very mean to you (assuming you're the lab director with the hundred workers). I should disclaim that what I say is something I assume is true about most people who gloat about their citation counts, but it's certainly not true about all such people, and might not be true about you. Myself, I'm a bit resentful because I'm so bad at the whole academic game, so that probably makes me quite biased.
    - account73466 7y ago
      >> assuming you're the lab director with the hundred workers You make wrong assumptions and proceed. I am not that person and thus I don't get why you attack me personally. While AI does not exist yet, that guy contributed to its development independently of your opinion about it. Don't attack people on HN.
      - wuliwong 7y ago
        >Don't attack people on HN. Don't attack people on HN.
        account73466 7y ago
        True. I edited it to be nicer.
amelius 7y ago
But I suppose that the amount of citations can be large even if the underlying research outcomes approach a horizontal asymptote.
- account73466 7y ago
  It can be. Still, he made some contribution to the progress in that field. Personally, I don't like the 'Canadian Mafia', I tend to prefer Schmidhuber.

xamuel 7y ago

Sounds like someone reeeeeallly good at nudging envelopes and writing grant proposals. Will be mostly forgotten a couple hundred years from now. Academic playwrights thought Shakespeare was a joke in his day.

account73466 7y ago
"a couple hundred years from now" by whom? He contributed to AI, will not be forgotten by AI. Edit: if you don't get what I mean by "not be forgotten", he will be the most cited scientist so why AI will exclude all his papers from some of its training sets (assuming that at least some stage of AI's development it will learn how humans do research)? Sounds unlikely.
- xamuel 7y ago
  By human beings. And he did not contribute to AI capable of contemplating human research like a human does, because no such AI exists yet. When it does exist (if ever), it will surely not consider this person or his hundred lab workers to have contributed to AI. It will consider them to have contributed to applied statistics. Edit: I realized these comments might be very mean to you (assuming you're the lab director with the hundred workers). I should disclaim that what I say is something I assume is true about most people who gloat about their citation counts, but it's certainly not true about all such people, and might not be true about you. Myself, I'm a bit resentful because I'm so bad at the whole academic game, so that probably makes me quite biased.
  - account73466 7y ago
    >> assuming you're the lab director with the hundred workers You make wrong assumptions and proceed. I am not that person and thus I don't get why you attack me personally. While AI does not exist yet, that guy contributed to its development independently of your opinion about it. Don't attack people on HN.
    - wuliwong 7y ago
      >Don't attack people on HN. Don't attack people on HN.
      - account73466 7y ago
        True. I edited it to be nicer.

amelius 7y ago

But I suppose that the amount of citations can be large even if the underlying research outcomes approach a horizontal asymptote.

account73466 7y ago
It can be. Still, he made some contribution to the progress in that field. Personally, I don't like the 'Canadian Mafia', I tend to prefer Schmidhuber.