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So if I put a bumper sticker on your car and walk away, then come back 3 months later and ask for it back and you refuse, then that's stealing? Really? Becaus
by tw04 7y ago
So if I put a bumper sticker on your car and walk away, then come back 3 months later and ask for it back and you refuse, then that's stealing? Really?
Because I'd say me putting something on your private property is vandalism. And you removing said vandalism is in no way a crime. They didn't have a warrant, and their device wasn't identified as belonging to the authorities. Just because the police vandalized your property (without informing you about what they were doing) shouldn't* make it any more of a crime to remove than if a private citizen did it. This is the same bullshit that empowers police to harass minorities "because we're cops".
- h4waii 7y agoIANAL, but doesn't vandalism sorta need destruction or damage to happen? That level is destruction is open to interpretation, but it still requires some form of destruction or damage to be classified as vandalism.
- a3n 7y agoThe application of the bumper sticker is the vandalism, just like graffiti.
- tw04 7y agoSure, and I doubt you would take someone to court over most definitions of vandalism. But I could pretty easily argue that when they affixed it to my car it scratched the clearcoat resulting in $XXX of damage. CLEARLY he's not going to counter-sue, but it's ridiculous to claim it's THEFT when you violated my privacy/trespassed on/against my property while affixing the thing to my property (without a warrant) in the first place.
- magduf 7y agoApplying a bumper sticker is absolutely vandalism. It mars the paint finish. Paint on cars is surprisingly delicate, and is easily damaged by mechanical means, such as by setting objects on the roof. The bumper sticker itself won't hurt the paint, unless you leave it there for a long time, but trying to remove it is very likely to.
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