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GitLab 12.5

114 points by bjoko 7y ago

chinhodado 7y ago
Can't wait to try out the Sourcegraph integration, as well as the improved rebase. At our place the rebase button on GitLab is so slow that no one uses it.
chbrosso 7y ago
I've struggled to understand how the ultimate plan can be priced as high as $99/user/month. What kind of company can afford this service price? It's the only way to have access to epics, a feature quite standard for Ajile project management. As a result, we're sticking to the Community Edition, so it's a loss of business for GitLab.
- Ididntdothis 7y ago
  I agree. 99 is a lot of money and basic things like epics should not be exclusive to a super expensive edition.
- merb 7y ago
  yeah atlassian pricing is way more affordable for small teams. (i.e. 10€/y for everything for a team of ten or below, but they have way higher server costs)
  - solatic 7y ago
    Atlassian starter pricing basically gives the product away to teams with a demonstrated ability to pay, so that they'll keep paying when they grow beyond the starter pricing. It's a false economy unless you could somehow guarantee that you'll never grow beyond 10 users.
    - huherto 7y ago
      But if you grow beyond 10 you are being successful. In other words. It is a nice problem to have if you are barely starting.
- inyorgroove 7y ago
  We were able to justify it because the automation would have taken a FTE to impliment. The cost was more than half that for us.
  - sytse 7y ago
    That is the idea. We are allowing more automation in for example security testing https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/dev-sec-ops/ https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/dev-sec-ops/ and portfolio planning https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/group/epics/ https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/group/epics/ We used to discount our top tier heavily when we just introduced it while we were adding the features to create more value. In our fiscal quarter that ended last month the average price per user for the top tier was above $1000 per year for the first time. And the top tier was 22% of our IACV https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/sales/#incremental-annual-contract-value-iacv https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/sales/#incremental-annual-... last quarter. I hope this makes it plausible that some of our users are starting to see the value.
- tikkabhuna 7y ago
  I was at Gitlab Commit London and myself and colleagues raised this with a few Gitlab employees. They seem to be aware their jump from Premium to Ultimate is too big. At their feedback booth I passed on that it would be ideal to pay for what you use. We use a separate issue tracker so any of that isn't relevant for us, but some of the security would be ideal. Likewise, we have user accounts for non-development departments (Legal/Compliance/etc) that wouldn't be interested in SAST, for example. If we jumped to Ultimate we would have to pay monthly for those users to access features that never would use. As I said, they do seem to be aware of this. I wouldn't be surprised if they came up with a different arrangement for Ultimate in the near future.
  - nicolasd 7y ago
    I’ve raised similar concerns as well, especially with the same argument about non-development departments. However, with the Ultimate plan you also get free guest users, which could serve well for most users who are not developers.
    - daricknance 7y ago
      Should look at Clubhouse for org wide project management . Integrates tightly with GitLab. Soon to release full Confluence replacement too
  - apple4ever 7y ago
    That's also part of the problem. They don't have a good strategy around these lite users.
- abtinf 7y ago
  What kind of established company can’t afford that? For engineers, it represents less then 1% (often less then even .5%) of the fully loaded cost of an FTE.
  - cfstras 7y ago
    Depends on your market.
    - whafro 7y ago
      And your margins.
  - oefrha 7y ago
    Plenty of (in fact most) companies don’t pay SF/SV/NYC salaries, especially outside the U.S.
- mobilemidget 7y ago
  Yes quite steep if you have enough devs you can pay for in-house gitlab server + admin
  - deleted 7y ago
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- base698 7y ago
  GitHub enterprise is much higher and doesn't even include CI/CD. In addition other CI tools I've seen quoted in the $300/seat range. Gitlab is a steal at a $99 price point compared to other tools.
  - skinnymuch 7y ago
    I thought GitHub enterprise is $250/yr/user. Which is only around $21/month. My info is prob really old though. Guessing they changed.
  - stateofnounion 7y ago
    what? github enterprise is 1/5 that cost. and what about github actions? they provide 50k minutes/month for enterprise https://github.com/features/actions https://github.com/features/actions
    - rumanator 7y ago
      To be fair, GitHub Actions is a relatively new thing and I'm not even sure it was already opened to the general public (that is, to anyone who didn't signed up for the beta). It's understandable if GitHub Actions isn't yet a part of the general public's mental landscape.
  - kevinherron 7y ago
    It's $250/user/YEAR, not per month.
- fraktl 7y ago
  This. Here's the story - I'm a dev, I discovered GitLab ~4 years ago, been using it since, we paid for Enterprise plan immediately and are self-hosting it (for internal use). I work with code. I can't context switch between an app for code, app for CI, app for CD, app for orchestration, app for issues, JIRA, mail, Slack (you get the idea) AND be productive. There's just too much white noise. I want to use a few tools, minimize context switching and do my work. I'd like to use GitLab alone, focus on business logic I've to code and keep an agile board that my team and I can use. And here comes GitLab - with a price of $99 per user. It'd cost us $25 000 a month. Just to get an agile board. So what we did was - we said "screw that, they completely missed the point", I started playing with Gogs: https://gogs.io/ https://gogs.io/ and I decided we can develop a tiny agile board within a few days to suit our needs, integrate it with gogs and ditch GitLab. I understand there's business around GitLab, I know there are bills to pay and appetites to satisfy but seriously guys - when a dev's bullshit meter goes off (and mine did), you can tell someone made a bad call. As much as I got used to GitLab's quirks and everything, I'm really now looking forward to replace it - simply due to the fact I felt like they want to rip me off for a meager feature. It would have been AMAZING if I could get an agile board and have GitLab help me with 60% of the extra-tooling besides my IDE, but nope - someone was too greedy. I saw many people complaining about this RIDICULOUS pricing, and even more people defend it - that made me give up arguing. From my POV, pricing is ridiculous, GitLab's been marked as yet another company that started off good and started turning evil (hi Google), I'm looking into alternatives - just like I found GitLab when I looked for GitHub alternative.
  - mattl 7y ago
    Share your work so others can use it, please.
  - sytse 7y ago
    The features you mention (code editing, CI, CD, orchestration, issues, Web IDE, agile board) are available in all tiers of GitLab, including the free open source version and the one for $4 per user per month (paid annually). What are the top features what you get with other software that are not in the free version of GitLab?
- allan_s 7y ago
  exactly, the gap is too high, and while being a an absolute gitlab fanboy (been converting all the companies I've been since 2012 and gitlab 5), but here I've no traction to say "let's ditch Jira and switch to ultimate, (we're currently premium), because for 10,20 more dollar, we have both, and yes as other said, suddenly with these features you want to onboard much more people , so you both pay more , and you pay more :)
- apple4ever 7y ago
  I agree. Their pricing needs fixed for sure. The lowest paid price isn't bad, and even the middle one, but the top one is way overpriced. It would also be nice if they introduced some sort of pricing for small orgs, especially for one people shops.
nefasti 7y ago
I’ve set up teamcity, Jenkins, CircleCI for past projects and companies. Tried to use gitlab with all their built-in DevOps feature and found it extremely frustrating to get to a good setup. I dig the idea of all in one but think it really needs some polishing
- throwaway5752 7y ago
  I am glad you said it. Right now, the setup is so opinionated that it's limited and suffers from the mile wide and inch deep problem. In particular, they are still behind the Jenkins default setup in terms of standardized xunit output parsing, tracking and visualizing test trends over time - and since they have all the git topology information at their disposal there are amazing possibilities there and its a real shame. They are light years away from large scale project management capabilities of JIRA + plugins and I wish they would improve the core source control + build pipeline experience before tackling that space.
- snuxoll 7y ago
  > Tried to use gitlab with all their built-in DevOps feature and found it extremely frustrating to get to a good setup. All the AutoDevOps stuff is pretty much just some standard build jobs that use Herokuish and Helm, and the inflexibility of them goes hand-in-hand with Gitlab's "breadth over depth" strategy. Hopefully it continues to mature, but for now it's only appropriate for smaller/less complicated applications. Fortunately it's pretty easy to ignore the AutoDevOps pipeline and still get the benefits of the various integration points that were added to make it work - if a Kubernetes cluster is tied to a project environment then a kubeconfig will be injected into any CI job with the environment set, the same job will automatically get recognized as the deployment job so rollbacks work seamlessly as well, etc. I've done this myself to deploy Mediawiki on Kubernetes, as the default pipeline was not setup for complex multi-component deployments (memcached, mediawiki, apache trafficserver, service endpoints for an external mysql cluster) and it works well.
martingxx 7y ago
I really like that there is a focus on being able to deploy in k8s. Nice work! However, some teams (ours) already run their own k8s clusters and would probably want to deploy gitlab in a namespace in there. I hoped there would be simple example k8s manifests for doing this, but last time I checked I could only find helm charts. We don't use helm and don't want to use it. If anyone knows some k8s manifests I can cut and paste to get started I'd appreciate it. Otherwise, it's going be be a job of creating it all myself, which right now is what's stopping us evaluating gitlab properly.
- mbell 7y ago
  Helm charts are just templated k8s manifests, you can have it spit out the final manifest and use it manually.
  - martingxx 7y ago
    Thanks. Maybe I will try that.
- base698 7y ago
  In your deploy step you can just use kubectl and set the user and context with variables you've provided the job.
- kennyGitLab 7y ago
  GitLab product person here - Thanks for the suggestion! I think this issue (scheduled for our 12.6 release coming out next month) should help. https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/issues/27630 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/issues/27630
  - kennyGitLab 7y ago
    Whoops - I think you are suggesting deploying GitLab the application to your existing Kubernetes cluster. The issue, and highlight from the blog post, were about deploying your applications (in GitLab projects) to a Kubernetes cluster.
eddyg 7y ago
How does Sourcegraph's pricing [0] come in to play with self-hosted, paid GitLab plans? For example, if you pay for GitLab's self-managed "Starter" package, and assuming you spin up your own private Sourcegraph instance [1] to go along with your self-managed GitLab instance, what Sourcegraph features do you get? Will you get code review intelligence, which Sourcegraph charges $29/user/month for? On Sourcegraph's pricing page, it says the open-source edition is missing features like "Single repository definitions and references" and "Cross-repository definitions and references". What does that mean for private GitLab instances? [0] https://about.sourcegraph.com/pricing/ https://about.sourcegraph.com/pricing/ [1] https://github.com/sourcegraph/sourcegraph https://github.com/sourcegraph/sourcegraph
- beliu 7y ago
  Sourcegraph CTO here. > For example, if you pay for GitLab's self-managed "Starter" package, and assuming you spin up your own private Sourcegraph instance [1] to go along with your self-managed GitLab instance, what Sourcegraph features do you get? Will you get code review intelligence, which Sourcegraph charges $29/user/month for? The GitLab pricing tier has no bearing on Sourcegraph features—it is the Sourcegraph pricing tier that determines what Sourcegraph features are available. $29/user/month is the Sourcegraph Enterprise tier, which includes full code review intelligence (jump-to-def, find-refs, hover tooltips). Note also that Sourcegraph customers are only charged for active users, so if most of your team doesn't end up using the features provided by Sourcegraph, you aren't charged for them. > On Sourcegraph's pricing page, it says the open-source edition is missing features like "Single repository definitions and references" and "Cross-repository definitions and references". What does that mean for private GitLab instances? "Single repository definitions and references" means go-to-def and find-refs work if the code you're trying to jump to is in the same repository. "Cross repository" means you can jump through to code in upstream and downstream dependencies. If you're running a private GitLab instance, you'll need to deploy a Sourcegraph instance (runnable as either a single Docker image or Kubernetes cluster) and pay for the appropriate license (free if you're under 10 active users and just want single-repository code intelligence, $29/user/month if you're over 10 active users or want cross-repo code intelligence). Sorry about the confusion here—does that answer your questions?
systemdtrigger 7y ago
Sourcegraph is the same company that hijacked the langserver.org domain to almost completely remove credit for the original author of language server protocol. Not a good team to be on.
new_realist 7y ago
Every release of GitLab is not newsworthy. Let interested parties sign up for email notifications.
- echelon 7y ago
  They're a YCombinator company and get the benefit of extra coverage. Stripe is another company with a constant stream of product announcements on HN. I've wondered if applying to Ycombinator might be valuable simply for the ability to advertise to and recruit engineers.
this_was_posted 7y ago
I am wondering when merge approvals will come to the community edition. To me this seems like a feature that is "essential to running a large 'forge' with public and private repositories". This would mean that it should be made available to the community edition according to their stewardship page[0]. [0] https://about.gitlab.com/company/stewardship/ https://about.gitlab.com/company/stewardship/
- samanthalee233 7y ago
  GitLab community advocate chiming in, I just wanted to share a n Epic with plans from our team regarding this issue and future releases. https://gitlab.com/groups/gitlab-org/-/epics/1887 https://gitlab.com/groups/gitlab-org/-/epics/1887
kitsuac 7y ago
I ran my own personal GitLab EE on EC2 and it cost a fortune per year to use an instance type with enough memory. Then I realized GitLab.com private is... free and unlimited? How is that even possible?
- brodock 7y ago
  When on the private, free, you get the features of the unlicensed EE (which behaves as the opensource version). You can still pay us money if you want, by going with one of the paid tiers, which gives you access to other features and additional CI minutes. But "free GitLab" is, really, good enough for personal use and small / medium companies when they are starting their digital transformation, or can afford to some manual inefficiencies. The extra features on the paid tier become more important and urgent as you grow, so by having you already familiar and invested in the product, it becomes more obvious and easier the choice of becoming a paid customer.

114 points by bjoko 7y ago

Can't wait to try out the Sourcegraph integration, as well as the improved rebase. At our place the rebase button on GitLab is so slow that no one uses it.

chbrosso 7y ago

I've struggled to understand how the ultimate plan can be priced as high as $99/user/month. What kind of company can afford this service price? It's the only way to have access to epics, a feature quite standard for Ajile project management. As a result, we're sticking to the Community Edition, so it's a loss of business for GitLab.

Ididntdothis 7y ago
I agree. 99 is a lot of money and basic things like epics should not be exclusive to a super expensive edition.
merb 7y ago
yeah atlassian pricing is way more affordable for small teams. (i.e. 10€/y for everything for a team of ten or below, but they have way higher server costs)
- solatic 7y ago
  Atlassian starter pricing basically gives the product away to teams with a demonstrated ability to pay, so that they'll keep paying when they grow beyond the starter pricing. It's a false economy unless you could somehow guarantee that you'll never grow beyond 10 users.
  - huherto 7y ago
    But if you grow beyond 10 you are being successful. In other words. It is a nice problem to have if you are barely starting.
inyorgroove 7y ago
We were able to justify it because the automation would have taken a FTE to impliment. The cost was more than half that for us.
- sytse 7y ago
  That is the idea. We are allowing more automation in for example security testing https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/dev-sec-ops/ https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/dev-sec-ops/ and portfolio planning https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/group/epics/ https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/group/epics/ We used to discount our top tier heavily when we just introduced it while we were adding the features to create more value. In our fiscal quarter that ended last month the average price per user for the top tier was above $1000 per year for the first time. And the top tier was 22% of our IACV https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/sales/#incremental-annual-contract-value-iacv https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/sales/#incremental-annual-... last quarter. I hope this makes it plausible that some of our users are starting to see the value.
tikkabhuna 7y ago
I was at Gitlab Commit London and myself and colleagues raised this with a few Gitlab employees. They seem to be aware their jump from Premium to Ultimate is too big. At their feedback booth I passed on that it would be ideal to pay for what you use. We use a separate issue tracker so any of that isn't relevant for us, but some of the security would be ideal. Likewise, we have user accounts for non-development departments (Legal/Compliance/etc) that wouldn't be interested in SAST, for example. If we jumped to Ultimate we would have to pay monthly for those users to access features that never would use. As I said, they do seem to be aware of this. I wouldn't be surprised if they came up with a different arrangement for Ultimate in the near future.
- nicolasd 7y ago
  I’ve raised similar concerns as well, especially with the same argument about non-development departments. However, with the Ultimate plan you also get free guest users, which could serve well for most users who are not developers.
  - daricknance 7y ago
    Should look at Clubhouse for org wide project management . Integrates tightly with GitLab. Soon to release full Confluence replacement too
- apple4ever 7y ago
  That's also part of the problem. They don't have a good strategy around these lite users.
abtinf 7y ago
What kind of established company can’t afford that? For engineers, it represents less then 1% (often less then even .5%) of the fully loaded cost of an FTE.
- cfstras 7y ago
  Depends on your market.
  - whafro 7y ago
    And your margins.
- oefrha 7y ago
  Plenty of (in fact most) companies don’t pay SF/SV/NYC salaries, especially outside the U.S.
mobilemidget 7y ago
Yes quite steep if you have enough devs you can pay for in-house gitlab server + admin
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
base698 7y ago
GitHub enterprise is much higher and doesn't even include CI/CD. In addition other CI tools I've seen quoted in the $300/seat range. Gitlab is a steal at a $99 price point compared to other tools.
- skinnymuch 7y ago
  I thought GitHub enterprise is $250/yr/user. Which is only around $21/month. My info is prob really old though. Guessing they changed.
- stateofnounion 7y ago
  what? github enterprise is 1/5 that cost. and what about github actions? they provide 50k minutes/month for enterprise https://github.com/features/actions https://github.com/features/actions
  - rumanator 7y ago
    To be fair, GitHub Actions is a relatively new thing and I'm not even sure it was already opened to the general public (that is, to anyone who didn't signed up for the beta). It's understandable if GitHub Actions isn't yet a part of the general public's mental landscape.
- kevinherron 7y ago
  It's $250/user/YEAR, not per month.
fraktl 7y ago
This. Here's the story - I'm a dev, I discovered GitLab ~4 years ago, been using it since, we paid for Enterprise plan immediately and are self-hosting it (for internal use). I work with code. I can't context switch between an app for code, app for CI, app for CD, app for orchestration, app for issues, JIRA, mail, Slack (you get the idea) AND be productive. There's just too much white noise. I want to use a few tools, minimize context switching and do my work. I'd like to use GitLab alone, focus on business logic I've to code and keep an agile board that my team and I can use. And here comes GitLab - with a price of $99 per user. It'd cost us $25 000 a month. Just to get an agile board. So what we did was - we said "screw that, they completely missed the point", I started playing with Gogs: https://gogs.io/ https://gogs.io/ and I decided we can develop a tiny agile board within a few days to suit our needs, integrate it with gogs and ditch GitLab. I understand there's business around GitLab, I know there are bills to pay and appetites to satisfy but seriously guys - when a dev's bullshit meter goes off (and mine did), you can tell someone made a bad call. As much as I got used to GitLab's quirks and everything, I'm really now looking forward to replace it - simply due to the fact I felt like they want to rip me off for a meager feature. It would have been AMAZING if I could get an agile board and have GitLab help me with 60% of the extra-tooling besides my IDE, but nope - someone was too greedy. I saw many people complaining about this RIDICULOUS pricing, and even more people defend it - that made me give up arguing. From my POV, pricing is ridiculous, GitLab's been marked as yet another company that started off good and started turning evil (hi Google), I'm looking into alternatives - just like I found GitLab when I looked for GitHub alternative.
- mattl 7y ago
  Share your work so others can use it, please.
- sytse 7y ago
  The features you mention (code editing, CI, CD, orchestration, issues, Web IDE, agile board) are available in all tiers of GitLab, including the free open source version and the one for $4 per user per month (paid annually). What are the top features what you get with other software that are not in the free version of GitLab?
allan_s 7y ago
exactly, the gap is too high, and while being a an absolute gitlab fanboy (been converting all the companies I've been since 2012 and gitlab 5), but here I've no traction to say "let's ditch Jira and switch to ultimate, (we're currently premium), because for 10,20 more dollar, we have both, and yes as other said, suddenly with these features you want to onboard much more people , so you both pay more , and you pay more :)
apple4ever 7y ago
I agree. Their pricing needs fixed for sure. The lowest paid price isn't bad, and even the middle one, but the top one is way overpriced. It would also be nice if they introduced some sort of pricing for small orgs, especially for one people shops.

nefasti 7y ago

I’ve set up teamcity, Jenkins, CircleCI for past projects and companies. Tried to use gitlab with all their built-in DevOps feature and found it extremely frustrating to get to a good setup. I dig the idea of all in one but think it really needs some polishing

throwaway5752 7y ago
I am glad you said it. Right now, the setup is so opinionated that it's limited and suffers from the mile wide and inch deep problem. In particular, they are still behind the Jenkins default setup in terms of standardized xunit output parsing, tracking and visualizing test trends over time - and since they have all the git topology information at their disposal there are amazing possibilities there and its a real shame. They are light years away from large scale project management capabilities of JIRA + plugins and I wish they would improve the core source control + build pipeline experience before tackling that space.
snuxoll 7y ago
> Tried to use gitlab with all their built-in DevOps feature and found it extremely frustrating to get to a good setup. All the AutoDevOps stuff is pretty much just some standard build jobs that use Herokuish and Helm, and the inflexibility of them goes hand-in-hand with Gitlab's "breadth over depth" strategy. Hopefully it continues to mature, but for now it's only appropriate for smaller/less complicated applications. Fortunately it's pretty easy to ignore the AutoDevOps pipeline and still get the benefits of the various integration points that were added to make it work - if a Kubernetes cluster is tied to a project environment then a kubeconfig will be injected into any CI job with the environment set, the same job will automatically get recognized as the deployment job so rollbacks work seamlessly as well, etc. I've done this myself to deploy Mediawiki on Kubernetes, as the default pipeline was not setup for complex multi-component deployments (memcached, mediawiki, apache trafficserver, service endpoints for an external mysql cluster) and it works well.

martingxx 7y ago

I really like that there is a focus on being able to deploy in k8s. Nice work! However, some teams (ours) already run their own k8s clusters and would probably want to deploy gitlab in a namespace in there. I hoped there would be simple example k8s manifests for doing this, but last time I checked I could only find helm charts. We don't use helm and don't want to use it. If anyone knows some k8s manifests I can cut and paste to get started I'd appreciate it. Otherwise, it's going be be a job of creating it all myself, which right now is what's stopping us evaluating gitlab properly.

mbell 7y ago
Helm charts are just templated k8s manifests, you can have it spit out the final manifest and use it manually.
- martingxx 7y ago
  Thanks. Maybe I will try that.
base698 7y ago
In your deploy step you can just use kubectl and set the user and context with variables you've provided the job.
kennyGitLab 7y ago
GitLab product person here - Thanks for the suggestion! I think this issue (scheduled for our 12.6 release coming out next month) should help. https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/issues/27630 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/issues/27630
- kennyGitLab 7y ago
  Whoops - I think you are suggesting deploying GitLab the application to your existing Kubernetes cluster. The issue, and highlight from the blog post, were about deploying your applications (in GitLab projects) to a Kubernetes cluster.

eddyg 7y ago

How does Sourcegraph's pricing [0] come in to play with self-hosted, paid GitLab plans? For example, if you pay for GitLab's self-managed "Starter" package, and assuming you spin up your own private Sourcegraph instance [1] to go along with your self-managed GitLab instance, what Sourcegraph features do you get? Will you get code review intelligence, which Sourcegraph charges $29/user/month for? On Sourcegraph's pricing page, it says the open-source edition is missing features like "Single repository definitions and references" and "Cross-repository definitions and references". What does that mean for private GitLab instances? [0] https://about.sourcegraph.com/pricing/ https://about.sourcegraph.com/pricing/ [1] https://github.com/sourcegraph/sourcegraph https://github.com/sourcegraph/sourcegraph

beliu 7y ago
Sourcegraph CTO here. > For example, if you pay for GitLab's self-managed "Starter" package, and assuming you spin up your own private Sourcegraph instance [1] to go along with your self-managed GitLab instance, what Sourcegraph features do you get? Will you get code review intelligence, which Sourcegraph charges $29/user/month for? The GitLab pricing tier has no bearing on Sourcegraph features—it is the Sourcegraph pricing tier that determines what Sourcegraph features are available. $29/user/month is the Sourcegraph Enterprise tier, which includes full code review intelligence (jump-to-def, find-refs, hover tooltips). Note also that Sourcegraph customers are only charged for active users, so if most of your team doesn't end up using the features provided by Sourcegraph, you aren't charged for them. > On Sourcegraph's pricing page, it says the open-source edition is missing features like "Single repository definitions and references" and "Cross-repository definitions and references". What does that mean for private GitLab instances? "Single repository definitions and references" means go-to-def and find-refs work if the code you're trying to jump to is in the same repository. "Cross repository" means you can jump through to code in upstream and downstream dependencies. If you're running a private GitLab instance, you'll need to deploy a Sourcegraph instance (runnable as either a single Docker image or Kubernetes cluster) and pay for the appropriate license (free if you're under 10 active users and just want single-repository code intelligence, $29/user/month if you're over 10 active users or want cross-repo code intelligence). Sorry about the confusion here—does that answer your questions?

systemdtrigger 7y ago

Sourcegraph is the same company that hijacked the langserver.org domain to almost completely remove credit for the original author of language server protocol. Not a good team to be on.

new_realist 7y ago

Every release of GitLab is not newsworthy. Let interested parties sign up for email notifications.

echelon 7y ago
They're a YCombinator company and get the benefit of extra coverage. Stripe is another company with a constant stream of product announcements on HN. I've wondered if applying to Ycombinator might be valuable simply for the ability to advertise to and recruit engineers.

this_was_posted 7y ago

I am wondering when merge approvals will come to the community edition. To me this seems like a feature that is "essential to running a large 'forge' with public and private repositories". This would mean that it should be made available to the community edition according to their stewardship page[0]. [0] https://about.gitlab.com/company/stewardship/ https://about.gitlab.com/company/stewardship/

samanthalee233 7y ago
GitLab community advocate chiming in, I just wanted to share a n Epic with plans from our team regarding this issue and future releases. https://gitlab.com/groups/gitlab-org/-/epics/1887 https://gitlab.com/groups/gitlab-org/-/epics/1887

kitsuac 7y ago

I ran my own personal GitLab EE on EC2 and it cost a fortune per year to use an instance type with enough memory. Then I realized GitLab.com private is... free and unlimited? How is that even possible?

brodock 7y ago
When on the private, free, you get the features of the unlicensed EE (which behaves as the opensource version). You can still pay us money if you want, by going with one of the paid tiers, which gives you access to other features and additional CI minutes. But "free GitLab" is, really, good enough for personal use and small / medium companies when they are starting their digital transformation, or can afford to some manual inefficiencies. The extra features on the paid tier become more important and urgent as you grow, so by having you already familiar and invested in the product, it becomes more obvious and easier the choice of becoming a paid customer.