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Yup. OnLive tried it with similar results. There are many markets where 10ms - 20ms latency doesn't matter that much, but realtime gaming isn't one of them. It'

Yup. OnLive tried it with similar results. There are many markets where 10ms - 20ms latency doesn't matter that much, but realtime gaming isn't one of them. It's extremely disorienting to play a game with even the slightest framebuffer lag.

minikites 7y ago
I think Stadia could be super cool for simulation games like Cities: Skylines. The lag isn't nearly as much of a problem and the ability to have an extremely powerful computer simulate many more "agents" would be fantastic.
- hyperpallium 7y ago
  Surprisingly, OnLive found lag was an even greater problem for applications with a cursor than for games. Plus your suggestion can be implemented with cloud compute (a backend behind the UI) - it doesn't need to be cloud streaming.
  - kevin_thibedeau 7y ago
    No problem. Just reinvent X11 and let the display server render the cursor.
    - Dylan16807 7y ago
      Your phrasing is dismissive but yes having a game not render its own cursor is pretty common and works quite well.
krzyk 7y ago
Really? I played Witcher 3 with ping (to Paperspace machine) of about 40ms, the latency wasn't noticeable at all.
abhink 7y ago
After playing it for about 5-8 hours in the last 2 days, I'd say for a casual gamer like me, there is no perceptible latency. Even in an FPS like Destiny. But again, yesterday was the first time I played a AAA game after two years so maybe I'm just a bit rusty.
- jannes 7y ago
  You don't know what you're missing until you have tried lower latency. My regular gaming setup is a 144 Hz monitor with a PC. Everytime I try gaming on a console with a 60 Hz TV I feel like I'm completely drunk because of the noticeable input lag. And that's not even cloud gaming. That's just the Console + TV input lag...
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bdefore 7y ago
I think the experience will vary quite significantly, the surface is quite large. For Stadia launch, I created a crowdsourcing reports site and am hoping that we can get a better understanding through others' experiences. https://www.cloudgamingdb.com/ https://www.cloudgamingdb.com/

minikites 7y ago

I think Stadia could be super cool for simulation games like Cities: Skylines. The lag isn't nearly as much of a problem and the ability to have an extremely powerful computer simulate many more "agents" would be fantastic.

hyperpallium 7y ago
Surprisingly, OnLive found lag was an even greater problem for applications with a cursor than for games. Plus your suggestion can be implemented with cloud compute (a backend behind the UI) - it doesn't need to be cloud streaming.
- kevin_thibedeau 7y ago
  No problem. Just reinvent X11 and let the display server render the cursor.
  - Dylan16807 7y ago
    Your phrasing is dismissive but yes having a game not render its own cursor is pretty common and works quite well.

krzyk 7y ago

Really? I played Witcher 3 with ping (to Paperspace machine) of about 40ms, the latency wasn't noticeable at all.

abhink 7y ago

After playing it for about 5-8 hours in the last 2 days, I'd say for a casual gamer like me, there is no perceptible latency. Even in an FPS like Destiny. But again, yesterday was the first time I played a AAA game after two years so maybe I'm just a bit rusty.

jannes 7y ago
You don't know what you're missing until you have tried lower latency. My regular gaming setup is a 144 Hz monitor with a PC. Everytime I try gaming on a console with a 60 Hz TV I feel like I'm completely drunk because of the noticeable input lag. And that's not even cloud gaming. That's just the Console + TV input lag...

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bdefore 7y ago

I think the experience will vary quite significantly, the surface is quite large. For Stadia launch, I created a crowdsourcing reports site and am hoping that we can get a better understanding through others' experiences. https://www.cloudgamingdb.com/ https://www.cloudgamingdb.com/