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Phoebus Cartel

195 points by EndXA 7y ago

Gusen 7y ago
"Impeachment" Is A Diversion And Delay: President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, raped and killed 15 boys in Buffalo, NY on Jan 10th, 2019. Complete and uncut audio of it all, along with Obama, Schumer, and Pelosi's direct involvement. 295+ boys die here in Jan2019 from high profile rapists \\Full and uncut audio from 10th January 2019. Download the mp3 file, put on head phones, and turn the volume all the way up. 10JanCh3_1255 -1557.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/18lTt_YKFEtsV6YDNzXFVQYLkStY-kSg2/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/18lTt_YKFEtsV6YDNzXFVQYLkStY... \\Previously reported: This is audio of the President, Donald Trump, demanding a four billion dollar bribe from child rapists to “take a blind eye” on January 3rd, 2019. Trump becomes one on January 14th, 2019. Also, this is the big reason the major networks do not report any of it. (Media moguls are in on it also) //Download the video, turn the volume all the way up and put head phones on. Note: there is not much to see in the video, the audio is picked up from another [illegal surveillance] system. Trump is on a call from with Henry Porter and Gigi Hadid. See page 63. Bribe demand at 10:18am: 3JanCh3_900 -1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Grdr8xF2psKNsuYlEnl9dIRV-77YG0Vr/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Grdr8xF2psKNsuYlEnl9dIRV-77... //President of the United States, Donald Trump, rapes and kills his first boy at 6:32am. Video link below: 14JanCh3_600avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/154QvA5hwyHGYIVXtod1ZbsOHFUJNbqZW/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/154QvA5hwyHGYIVXtod1ZbsOHFUJ... 14JanCh2_600 -700.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/19UkqmnMwZiWy7xxWngltqwoKLTJL-IZ_/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/19UkqmnMwZiWy7xxWngltqwoKLTJ... //On January 18th, 2019 at 8:31am (see page 8) Trump acknowledges the FOUR billion dollar bribe and says: "Let's get it done and get to fucking some kids." Video link below: 18JanCh3_725-.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bVTcGq5Z9oOSAiOQcKYrmuK4TwoNmY1h/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bVTcGq5Z9oOSAiOQcKYrmuK4Two... //The major reason this has not been reported by the major news networks is right here. Lester Holt of NBC Nightly News, apparently a member of the Illuminati since the 1980's, along with ABC Nightly News lead anchor David Muir, stop over to the Porter studio in Buffalo on January 14th, 2019 at 5:00 am. They both rape and kill about two dozen boys by 6:00 am. David Muir starts around 5:12 am, then Holt about 5:36 am. Multi-billionaire Rupert Murdoch, owner of News Corp & Fox Corporation, takes his turn after Holt. Video links below: 14JanCh3_500- 601.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i7NKepeyG_FfdQRrM7KsnFOZOOX3o7UL/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i7NKepeyG_FfdQRrM7KsnFOZOOX... 14JanCh2_530 -600.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZzgN5ilI7ToroU5cfqMaL4o2u1RwidV/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZzgN5ilI7ToroU5cfqMaL4o2u1... \\Adding to the (media protection) reason this is not picked up by the media, CBS and Viacom owner Sumner Redstone and Leslie Moonves rape and kill several boys following the President. 14JanCh3_700.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/10XDw6x3ldnnQiq7oIjpdYVENyXaB4aI0/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/10XDw6x3ldnnQiq7oIjpdYVENyXa... 14JanCh2_700- 800.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NS_e6AzEZ05wnfljkGMETGU5CWYKfRDp/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NS_e6AzEZ05wnfljkGMETGU5CWY... //Full 89 page PDF [updated 17th Nov'19]: FBI_FinalDraft_26Jul2019_BSchlenker.pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJ... \\This post will be censored when this account logs off, the posts are "shadow banned". They try to make it look like the post is live, but it is not. Here is an example. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJedYKz/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJ... \\@ Listen to Speaker of the House, Senator Nancy Pelosi, accept a THREE billion dollar bribe from wealthy high profile child rapists for safe passage to get Asian boys through the border at "Monterrey" on January 17, 2019. New York senator Chuck schumer rapes and kills a boy later that afternoon to secure his $2 billion dollar bribe. //Download the video, turn the volume all the way up and put head phones on. Note: there is not much to see in the video, the audio is picked up from another [illegal surveillance] system. Nancy Pelosi call starts at 10:31am. 17JanCh3_949 -1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eodHu4o5Cm3xEWhDqipSuTj-M1CZUvmE/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eodHu4o5Cm3xEWhDqipSuTj-M1C... 17JanCh4_1017 -1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y-nWEQbempkVZSz230j9wTyduZNjDmnk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y-nWEQbempkVZSz230j9wTyduZN... Excerpts of the dialogue: \\Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi returns to the Porter camera system at 1031 for a check-in. "Nancy Pelosi is here and she wants $3 billion to keep the border open at Monterrey. $3 billion dollars to keep that shit open do you believe that?" Matthew Porter commentates. Pelosi states 1034: "I think he [Brian Schlenker] needs to be removed. I think we need to get this guy out of here". Speaker Pelosi then agrees to call back at 7pm PST. Gigi Hadid at 1034: "Thanks for calling us. I've got you down for three minutes". Pelosi don't worry about that I've got 3 billion. 1031 Matthew Porter: Nancy Pelosi is on and she wants $3 billion dollars to keep the border open at Monterey. Three billion dollars to keep that shit open do you believe that? 1033 Nancy Pelosi: I don't think that will be necessary unless you insist. 1033 Donald Reeves: We insist. 1033 Nancy Pelosi: Ok then I guess we have a deal. 1033 Matthew Porter: Thank you Mrs. Pelosi. 1033 Nancy Pelosi: Please call me Speaker Pelosi. 1033 Nancy Pelosi: We want to make sure you have safe passage at Monterey. 1033 Matthew Porter: We appreciate that Speaker Pelosi. 1033 Gigi Hadid: I think we may have to scale back a little bit though. 1033 Nancy Pelosi: Gigi I think we'll be just fine. 1035 Nancy Pelosi: God damn it! I want Kamala to get a billion out of yours, not out of mine. 1035 Gigi Hadid: I think we can accommodate you but we need to find out if Monterrey will be open on the 30th of January. 1036 Nancy Pelosi: Of course it will Gigi. 1036 Nancy Pelosi: $3 billion goes a long way Peter. 1036 Peter Thiel: Excellent answer. 1043 Gigi Hadid: I think we need to give Kamala a billion dollars to keep her [happy]. 1043 Matthew Porter: I think we can do that but we need to get her to do something first. 1043 Gigi Hadid: She did. We got her fucking Rahm Emmanuel Monday morning [14Jan] at 235. 1043 Matthew Porter: Perfect, then we're all set. Send her the billion. 1043? Nancy Pelosi: She'll accept the money, I guarantee it. 1043? Gigi Hadid: Nancy thank you for everything. <ch4> 1036 Donald Reeves: Don't listen to her. She will close down the border if it's not there. Make sure she gets the three billion. This is the tip of the iceberg. Full 89 page document [updated Nov 17th 2019]: FBI_FinalDraft_26Jul2019_BSchlenker.pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJ... //*This post will be censored when this account logs off. Posts are "shadow banned". They try to make it look like the post is live, but it is not. Here is an example. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJedYKz/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJ... \\$ \\New York Senator Charles Schumer rapes and kills one boy looking for his two billion dollar payment from 1700-1730. Schumer at 1701: "Let's get him out of there, and get to fucking some kids!” Download the video, turn the volume all the way up and put head phones on. Note: there is not much to see in the video, the audio is picked up from another [illegal surveillance] system. Just as a head’s up, there is a vacuum running intermittently in the beginning and some loud noises. \\Representative from New Orleans Steve Scalise rapes and kills three 17:25+. Video links below. Each channel has different system users of varying importance, and one may be easier to hear than another. This is explained in better detail in the PDF. 17JanCh3_1644.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1caUbmhIf8z264w1MWeOzm0VQIG_h3rtA/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1caUbmhIf8z264w1MWeOzm0VQIG_... 17JanCh4_1700-1800_redo.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Md911Z2vXJzJEmNAiJcOkHDKIl15GUmz/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Md911Z2vXJzJEmNAiJcOkHDKIl1... \\Back on January 13th, a deal to bring over the boys from North Korea & China, 300 for $375 million through “Monterrey”, is discussed with Barack Obama, Charles Schumer, Henry Porter, and Donald Reeves. Jack Dorsey is there and also discusses possibilities for 500 boys over 300. See pages 37 and 38. You will hear the deal go down later that afternoon between 1:30pm and 3:00pm. Here are the links for the first discussion, which begins around 8:40 with an anxious Barack Obama., the rest are in the PDF: 13JanCh2_700-900.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iUr44-U3dpt0cBlhlOgM071HAtei-g6G/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iUr44-U3dpt0cBlhlOgM071HAte... 13JanCh3_800-845.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m3bBVPra2BEgzmM2QNJsR-JA7rw__oOW/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m3bBVPra2BEgzmM2QNJsR-JA7rw... 13JanCh3_845-954.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XFCDABfGb10oAwCLt7gc4XbsOMxgpKPT/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XFCDABfGb10oAwCLt7gc4XbsOMx... \\Events were excerpts from this 89 page PDF . It keeps getting censored, but with enough public awareness, they will eventually have to face justice. Please help get this around [updated 17Nov]: FBI_FinalDraft_26Jul2019_BSchlenker.pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJ...
TooCleverByHalf 7y ago
Planet Money ran an episode on the Phoebus Cartel not too long ago. Really interesting listen. https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2019/03/27/707388981/episode-902-the-phoebus-cartel https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2019/03/27/707388981/epis...
spqr0a1 7y ago
Light bulbs are a bad example of the dangers of cartels. Incandescent filaments are much more efficient at higher temperature but burn out quicker. In the common case, savings from reduced electricity cost more than offset the increased replacement rate for bulbs in accessible fixtures. Short-lived bulbs were good for the customers. In a market with perfect information people would have chosen them on their own. Unfortunately of 3 categories of information needed for an informed decision (lifetime, power usage, and light output) purchasers only had a good measure of how often they replaced bulbs. Usage patterns are too complex for improvements in a single bulb to be obvious on a power bill, and human brightness perception is roughly logarithmic so it’s not visually obvious how much brighter different bulbs are. Whether it was motivated by greed or not, the Phoebus cartel is an example of big business successfully advocating for the interests of the general public in the presence of information asymmetry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incandescent_light_bulb#Light_output_and_lifetime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incandescent_light_bulb#Light_...
- readams 7y ago
  They could have printed electricity costs on the packages. Instead they artificially limited competition. That doesn't sound like they had anyone's interests but their own in mind.
  - barrkel 7y ago
    Incandescent bulbs are labeled and classified by their electricity consumption. It's literally in the product description: 40W bulb, 60W bulb, 100W bulb, etc.
    - simonh 7y ago
      Cost is based on both consumption and efficiency, not consumption alone because with a more efficient bulb you can illuminate a given area with fewer bulbs.
    - KC8ZKF 7y ago
      The cartel disbanded in 1939. Were the bulbs labeled and classified by power consumption before then?
jasoneckert 7y ago
I just explained this Wikipedia article to the person next to me. They replied "Wow - I would have thought that a light bulb cartel would have had a much brighter future..."
valley-green 7y ago
Same thing is happening with cell phones. Member companies are Google and Apple and they have defeated every challenger, including Blackberry and Windows. Nobody can stand up to the smartphone cartel.
the-dude 7y ago
Today, another halogen lightbulb failed at my house. These are the very unreliable replacements for incandescent bulbs as mandated by the EU.
- l33tbro 7y ago
  LED's also have an inferior light quality to incandescent. The color rendering index of the average LED is usualy 70-80, usually with horrible green spikes. Incandescent lights are blackbody radiators and have a CRI of 100. So the quality of light and color rendering is equivalent to daylight. Bums me out to hear that they're being phased-out in some places.
  - nicoburns 7y ago
    It's not hard to find CRI 95 led bulbs. I have a couple that are CRI 97. They really do look like incandescents (or at least, much much closer than typical leds). The only issue I've had is that you only seem to be able to get them up to around 800 lumens.
    - Jamwinner 7y ago
      You just clearly explained how they are inferior in multiple ways, even if carefully researched and mitigated for. Most people just want what worked, to keep working as well as it did.
      - mc3 7y ago
        Getting used to not having what we had before is going to be the theme of this century, with environmental change. I have LEDs at home, no idea what spec, but honestly they are more than good enough. Prefer them to candles, or darkness.
      - nicoburns 7y ago
        They also consume considerably less energy, run cooler, and last longer. A single 100W lightbulb consumes more energy than running my entire computer. What we want hasn't got much to do with it. Continuing to use inefficient devices will result in a planet that no longer functions. Nobody wants that.
kylek 7y ago
RIP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Light https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Light
- nhyun 7y ago
  RIP? It's not burned out yet: http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm
  - mirimir 7y ago
    cam: http://www.centennialbulb.org/cam.htm http://www.centennialbulb.org/cam.htm
    - kylek 7y ago
      My bad, off by about 15000 years (sorry, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17776 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17776 . The bulb is a critical part of the plot!)
macspoofing 7y ago
The worst thing about the Phoebus Cartel is that for something that lasted just a few years (and didn't really work), it is constantly cited as the quintessential example of 'planned obsolescence' and therefore one of the evils of capitalism. 'Planned obsolescence' itself, is an overstated and overrated concept that is frequently conflated with common practices like making a product cheaper through the use of lower-quality materials.
- fsh 7y ago
  "Planned obsolescence" and "value engineering" have almost the same effect for the customers though. Products are designed to just barely survive the EU's two year mandatory warranty period.
  - andrepd 7y ago
    Maybe it's time to up that warranty period? Perhaps even different values for different kinds of products (3 years for a phone, 8 years for a washing machine, etc.).
  - stevehawk 7y ago
    They may have similar effects, but their intent is very different, which means who gets blamed is very different. "Planned obsolescence" means evil, greedy corporations. "Value engineering" means consumers want "cheaper" not "better", which means we are the evil, greedy ones. But I'm not greedy, so it must be the corporations!
    - fsh 7y ago
      Intent is very hard to prove. In my last Sony laptop the keycaps were held in by hooks formed from a thin metal sheet. After a while (2.5 years in my case) the hooks start to break and the keys fell off. The keyboard was riveted and glued into the case which made it impossible to fix it. Was this the cheapest way for Sony to attach the keys to the laptop? Maybe. Did it get me to replace my otherwise perfectly fine laptop after 2.5 years? Certainly.
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jml7c5 7y ago
I'm hoping someone clever here has read a book about the cartel and can answer this question: The wiki page doesn't go into too much detail, but is there any evidence the primary goal of the cartel was primarily intended to increase energy efficiency, or was it really pure unadulterated greed? Honestly, were it for the sake of efficiency, I wouldn't mind it. Though the metric of lifetime in hours rather than lumen/watt makes my approval borderline rather than whole-hearted.
- bad-joke 7y ago
  The first citation on the page[1] mentions researcher Markus Krajewski who reviewed Phoebus records and concluded "It was the explicit aim of the cartel to reduce the life span of the lamps in order to increase sales [...] Economics, not physics." Cursory searches of Markus Krajewski yield an IEEE Spectrum article[2] with further references to his work: > The 2010 documentary The Light Bulb Conspiracy explores the Phoebus cartel as an early example of planned obsolescence and includes interviews with Markus Krajewski. For more on the cartel and planned obsolescence, see the author’s "Fehler-Planungen. Zur Geschichte und Theorie der industriellen Obsoleszenz," in Technikgeschichte, vol. 81, No. 1, p. 91–114, 2014, and "Vom Krieg des Lichtes zur Geschichte von Glühlampenkartellen," in Das Glühbirnenbuch, edited by Peter Berz, Helmut Höge, and Krajewski (Braumüller Verlag, 2011). Hope this helps! [1]https://outline.com/JYvASt https://outline.com/JYvASt [2]https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-history/dawn-of-electronics/the-great-lightbulb-conspiracy https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-history/dawn-of-electronics/t...
acd 7y ago
Related https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence I would argue that the current economic system does not plan for maximum longevity of products. Rather it can be more profitable for an manufacturer for planned obsolescence or simply make products which does not last that long. As long as they do not get caught that is.
- donclark 7y ago
  If there is such a thing as planned obsolescence of a product, why do we not require it to be listed on the packaging and/or specs? Why not also include hefty fines for products that do not have this information listed cleary (like nutritional info), listed incorrectly, or simply fail on avg before the "POdate"?
  - at-fates-hands 7y ago
    I just read an interview with Adam Minter who wrote a new book called, "Secondhand: Travels in the New Global Garage Sale" which addresses this. He was talking about putting a "durability" tag on clothing and other items which point out how long they will last. For instance, for clothes, how many wash cycles can this shirt take? How long before the materials start to breakdown? This would be on all clothing and textile items and then you can let the consumer decide if they want the less expensive shirt that lasts 10 washing cycles, or the more expensive one that lasts 50 or 100 cycles. He also talked about the paradox of the secondary smartphone market. Apple's products are a great example. The iPhone takes a bit of work to to even change the battery, so now the life of the phone is almost exclusively tied to the battery and how long it lasts. Most people just toss it when the battery goes bad and upgrade to the newest version. For the people who can actually change the battery, it's created an entire secondhand market for their products. One that is incredibly useful to consumers and the techs who are able to keep the phone going once the battery dies. For Apple, it's almost an affront to their practice of voiding warranties if you open the phone up and actively discouraging the whole notion you should be able to repair your own phone instead of having to upgrade it once the battery is dead. It was a really cool interview and Adam brought up a lot of other interesting things about our "disposable" culture.
jamesakirk 7y ago
Here is the section in Gravity's Rainbow which tells the tale of Byron the Lightbulb (the longest-burning lightbulb) and his troubles with the Phoebus Cartel: https://www.tildedave.com/byron.html https://www.tildedave.com/byron.html In a book full of strange meandering asides, this was among the most memorable.
- mjaniczek 7y ago
  Wow that was hard to read.
- voldacar 7y ago
  Byron the Bulb was what got me hooked on Pynchon. He writes like a madman
ddoran 7y ago
Previous discussion 1 year ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17606748 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17606748
tomc1985 7y ago
How did I know the top post on this would be someone springing to the defense...
skrebbel 7y ago
I live in Eindhoven, home town of Philips, one of the members of this cartel. Philips is extremely loved here. They're the reason this city is a city at all, they're the reason we're a prosperous region with of lots of innovation (mostly hardware though, so not very HN-fashionable). We now have apartment buildings named after their founders ("Gerard", "Anton", etc), lunchrooms ("Meneer Frits"), the local football stadium & club are named after them, and so on. Statues. Statues! Not of a Great Leader back in some totalitarian past, but of CEOs! Imagine putting an enormous bronze Elon Musk at the SF Caltrain station square. That's Eindhoven. We love us our Philips. They were crooks. The amount of cartels Philips has been in is staggering. They've been working to screw over their customers since the very beginning. Look it up, any infamous technology cartel from the 20th century you can find, big chance Philips was on it. When cartels went out of vogue they lobbied for regulation with pretty much the same effect - Philips will do anything, legal or not, to keep their margins up. I really don't understand how easily people whitewash this shit.
- pergadad 7y ago
  They're crooks, but they are our crooks! And to be fair some Philips products are decent.
  - skrebbel 7y ago
    That's totally besides the point though :-) Plus, unless you're referring to medical equipment, it's probably just brand licensing. Philips hardly produces any consumer electronics anymore (incl lights).
    - Mockapapella 7y ago
      I work in the lighting industry. I'm told they have a patent on the concept of attaching a driver to an LED board. We, and many other lighting companies, pay for a license to use that patent.
- fogetti 7y ago
  You basically described what's wrong with caputalism in general. And I agree. Everybody shits their pants when there is a statue erected for the big leader but somehow noon really seems to care about the impact of big Corp to the same effect which is EXTREMELY troubling

195 points by EndXA 7y ago

"Impeachment" Is A Diversion And Delay: President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, raped and killed 15 boys in Buffalo, NY on Jan 10th, 2019. Complete and uncut audio of it all, along with Obama, Schumer, and Pelosi's direct involvement. 295+ boys die here in Jan2019 from high profile rapists \\Full and uncut audio from 10th January 2019. Download the mp3 file, put on head phones, and turn the volume all the way up. 10JanCh3_1255 -1557.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/18lTt_YKFEtsV6YDNzXFVQYLkStY-kSg2/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/18lTt_YKFEtsV6YDNzXFVQYLkStY... \\Previously reported: This is audio of the President, Donald Trump, demanding a four billion dollar bribe from child rapists to “take a blind eye” on January 3rd, 2019. Trump becomes one on January 14th, 2019. Also, this is the big reason the major networks do not report any of it. (Media moguls are in on it also) //Download the video, turn the volume all the way up and put head phones on. Note: there is not much to see in the video, the audio is picked up from another [illegal surveillance] system. Trump is on a call from with Henry Porter and Gigi Hadid. See page 63. Bribe demand at 10:18am: 3JanCh3_900 -1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Grdr8xF2psKNsuYlEnl9dIRV-77YG0Vr/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Grdr8xF2psKNsuYlEnl9dIRV-77... //President of the United States, Donald Trump, rapes and kills his first boy at 6:32am. Video link below: 14JanCh3_600avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/154QvA5hwyHGYIVXtod1ZbsOHFUJNbqZW/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/154QvA5hwyHGYIVXtod1ZbsOHFUJ... 14JanCh2_600 -700.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/19UkqmnMwZiWy7xxWngltqwoKLTJL-IZ_/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/19UkqmnMwZiWy7xxWngltqwoKLTJ... //On January 18th, 2019 at 8:31am (see page 8) Trump acknowledges the FOUR billion dollar bribe and says: "Let's get it done and get to fucking some kids." Video link below: 18JanCh3_725-.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bVTcGq5Z9oOSAiOQcKYrmuK4TwoNmY1h/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bVTcGq5Z9oOSAiOQcKYrmuK4Two... //The major reason this has not been reported by the major news networks is right here. Lester Holt of NBC Nightly News, apparently a member of the Illuminati since the 1980's, along with ABC Nightly News lead anchor David Muir, stop over to the Porter studio in Buffalo on January 14th, 2019 at 5:00 am. They both rape and kill about two dozen boys by 6:00 am. David Muir starts around 5:12 am, then Holt about 5:36 am. Multi-billionaire Rupert Murdoch, owner of News Corp & Fox Corporation, takes his turn after Holt. Video links below: 14JanCh3_500- 601.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i7NKepeyG_FfdQRrM7KsnFOZOOX3o7UL/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i7NKepeyG_FfdQRrM7KsnFOZOOX... 14JanCh2_530 -600.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZzgN5ilI7ToroU5cfqMaL4o2u1RwidV/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZzgN5ilI7ToroU5cfqMaL4o2u1... \\Adding to the (media protection) reason this is not picked up by the media, CBS and Viacom owner Sumner Redstone and Leslie Moonves rape and kill several boys following the President. 14JanCh3_700.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/10XDw6x3ldnnQiq7oIjpdYVENyXaB4aI0/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/10XDw6x3ldnnQiq7oIjpdYVENyXa... 14JanCh2_700- 800.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NS_e6AzEZ05wnfljkGMETGU5CWYKfRDp/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NS_e6AzEZ05wnfljkGMETGU5CWY... //Full 89 page PDF [updated 17th Nov'19]: FBI_FinalDraft_26Jul2019_BSchlenker.pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJ... \\This post will be censored when this account logs off, the posts are "shadow banned". They try to make it look like the post is live, but it is not. Here is an example. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJedYKz/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJ... \\@ Listen to Speaker of the House, Senator Nancy Pelosi, accept a THREE billion dollar bribe from wealthy high profile child rapists for safe passage to get Asian boys through the border at "Monterrey" on January 17, 2019. New York senator Chuck schumer rapes and kills a boy later that afternoon to secure his $2 billion dollar bribe. //Download the video, turn the volume all the way up and put head phones on. Note: there is not much to see in the video, the audio is picked up from another [illegal surveillance] system. Nancy Pelosi call starts at 10:31am. 17JanCh3_949 -1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eodHu4o5Cm3xEWhDqipSuTj-M1CZUvmE/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eodHu4o5Cm3xEWhDqipSuTj-M1C... 17JanCh4_1017 -1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y-nWEQbempkVZSz230j9wTyduZNjDmnk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y-nWEQbempkVZSz230j9wTyduZN... Excerpts of the dialogue: \\Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi returns to the Porter camera system at 1031 for a check-in. "Nancy Pelosi is here and she wants $3 billion to keep the border open at Monterrey. $3 billion dollars to keep that shit open do you believe that?" Matthew Porter commentates. Pelosi states 1034: "I think he [Brian Schlenker] needs to be removed. I think we need to get this guy out of here". Speaker Pelosi then agrees to call back at 7pm PST. Gigi Hadid at 1034: "Thanks for calling us. I've got you down for three minutes". Pelosi don't worry about that I've got 3 billion. 1031 Matthew Porter: Nancy Pelosi is on and she wants $3 billion dollars to keep the border open at Monterey. Three billion dollars to keep that shit open do you believe that? 1033 Nancy Pelosi: I don't think that will be necessary unless you insist. 1033 Donald Reeves: We insist. 1033 Nancy Pelosi: Ok then I guess we have a deal. 1033 Matthew Porter: Thank you Mrs. Pelosi. 1033 Nancy Pelosi: Please call me Speaker Pelosi. 1033 Nancy Pelosi: We want to make sure you have safe passage at Monterey. 1033 Matthew Porter: We appreciate that Speaker Pelosi. 1033 Gigi Hadid: I think we may have to scale back a little bit though. 1033 Nancy Pelosi: Gigi I think we'll be just fine. 1035 Nancy Pelosi: God damn it! I want Kamala to get a billion out of yours, not out of mine. 1035 Gigi Hadid: I think we can accommodate you but we need to find out if Monterrey will be open on the 30th of January. 1036 Nancy Pelosi: Of course it will Gigi. 1036 Nancy Pelosi: $3 billion goes a long way Peter. 1036 Peter Thiel: Excellent answer. 1043 Gigi Hadid: I think we need to give Kamala a billion dollars to keep her [happy]. 1043 Matthew Porter: I think we can do that but we need to get her to do something first. 1043 Gigi Hadid: She did. We got her fucking Rahm Emmanuel Monday morning [14Jan] at 235. 1043 Matthew Porter: Perfect, then we're all set. Send her the billion. 1043? Nancy Pelosi: She'll accept the money, I guarantee it. 1043? Gigi Hadid: Nancy thank you for everything. <ch4> 1036 Donald Reeves: Don't listen to her. She will close down the border if it's not there. Make sure she gets the three billion. This is the tip of the iceberg. Full 89 page document [updated Nov 17th 2019]: FBI_FinalDraft_26Jul2019_BSchlenker.pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJ... //*This post will be censored when this account logs off. Posts are "shadow banned". They try to make it look like the post is live, but it is not. Here is an example. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJedYKz/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJ... \\$ \\New York Senator Charles Schumer rapes and kills one boy looking for his two billion dollar payment from 1700-1730. Schumer at 1701: "Let's get him out of there, and get to fucking some kids!” Download the video, turn the volume all the way up and put head phones on. Note: there is not much to see in the video, the audio is picked up from another [illegal surveillance] system. Just as a head’s up, there is a vacuum running intermittently in the beginning and some loud noises. \\Representative from New Orleans Steve Scalise rapes and kills three 17:25+. Video links below. Each channel has different system users of varying importance, and one may be easier to hear than another. This is explained in better detail in the PDF. 17JanCh3_1644.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1caUbmhIf8z264w1MWeOzm0VQIG_h3rtA/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1caUbmhIf8z264w1MWeOzm0VQIG_... 17JanCh4_1700-1800_redo.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Md911Z2vXJzJEmNAiJcOkHDKIl15GUmz/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Md911Z2vXJzJEmNAiJcOkHDKIl1... \\Back on January 13th, a deal to bring over the boys from North Korea & China, 300 for $375 million through “Monterrey”, is discussed with Barack Obama, Charles Schumer, Henry Porter, and Donald Reeves. Jack Dorsey is there and also discusses possibilities for 500 boys over 300. See pages 37 and 38. You will hear the deal go down later that afternoon between 1:30pm and 3:00pm. Here are the links for the first discussion, which begins around 8:40 with an anxious Barack Obama., the rest are in the PDF: 13JanCh2_700-900.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iUr44-U3dpt0cBlhlOgM071HAtei-g6G/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iUr44-U3dpt0cBlhlOgM071HAte... 13JanCh3_800-845.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m3bBVPra2BEgzmM2QNJsR-JA7rw__oOW/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m3bBVPra2BEgzmM2QNJsR-JA7rw... 13JanCh3_845-954.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XFCDABfGb10oAwCLt7gc4XbsOMxgpKPT/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XFCDABfGb10oAwCLt7gc4XbsOMx... \\Events were excerpts from this 89 page PDF . It keeps getting censored, but with enough public awareness, they will eventually have to face justice. Please help get this around [updated 17Nov]: FBI_FinalDraft_26Jul2019_BSchlenker.pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJ...

TooCleverByHalf 7y ago

Planet Money ran an episode on the Phoebus Cartel not too long ago. Really interesting listen. https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2019/03/27/707388981/episode-902-the-phoebus-cartel https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2019/03/27/707388981/epis...

spqr0a1 7y ago

Light bulbs are a bad example of the dangers of cartels. Incandescent filaments are much more efficient at higher temperature but burn out quicker. In the common case, savings from reduced electricity cost more than offset the increased replacement rate for bulbs in accessible fixtures. Short-lived bulbs were good for the customers. In a market with perfect information people would have chosen them on their own. Unfortunately of 3 categories of information needed for an informed decision (lifetime, power usage, and light output) purchasers only had a good measure of how often they replaced bulbs. Usage patterns are too complex for improvements in a single bulb to be obvious on a power bill, and human brightness perception is roughly logarithmic so it’s not visually obvious how much brighter different bulbs are. Whether it was motivated by greed or not, the Phoebus cartel is an example of big business successfully advocating for the interests of the general public in the presence of information asymmetry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incandescent_light_bulb#Light_output_and_lifetime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incandescent_light_bulb#Light_...

readams 7y ago
They could have printed electricity costs on the packages. Instead they artificially limited competition. That doesn't sound like they had anyone's interests but their own in mind.
- barrkel 7y ago
  Incandescent bulbs are labeled and classified by their electricity consumption. It's literally in the product description: 40W bulb, 60W bulb, 100W bulb, etc.
  - simonh 7y ago
    Cost is based on both consumption and efficiency, not consumption alone because with a more efficient bulb you can illuminate a given area with fewer bulbs.
  - KC8ZKF 7y ago
    The cartel disbanded in 1939. Were the bulbs labeled and classified by power consumption before then?

jasoneckert 7y ago

I just explained this Wikipedia article to the person next to me. They replied "Wow - I would have thought that a light bulb cartel would have had a much brighter future..."

valley-green 7y ago

Same thing is happening with cell phones. Member companies are Google and Apple and they have defeated every challenger, including Blackberry and Windows. Nobody can stand up to the smartphone cartel.

the-dude 7y ago

Today, another halogen lightbulb failed at my house. These are the very unreliable replacements for incandescent bulbs as mandated by the EU.

l33tbro 7y ago
LED's also have an inferior light quality to incandescent. The color rendering index of the average LED is usualy 70-80, usually with horrible green spikes. Incandescent lights are blackbody radiators and have a CRI of 100. So the quality of light and color rendering is equivalent to daylight. Bums me out to hear that they're being phased-out in some places.
- nicoburns 7y ago
  It's not hard to find CRI 95 led bulbs. I have a couple that are CRI 97. They really do look like incandescents (or at least, much much closer than typical leds). The only issue I've had is that you only seem to be able to get them up to around 800 lumens.
  - Jamwinner 7y ago
    You just clearly explained how they are inferior in multiple ways, even if carefully researched and mitigated for. Most people just want what worked, to keep working as well as it did.
    - mc3 7y ago
      Getting used to not having what we had before is going to be the theme of this century, with environmental change. I have LEDs at home, no idea what spec, but honestly they are more than good enough. Prefer them to candles, or darkness.
    - nicoburns 7y ago
      They also consume considerably less energy, run cooler, and last longer. A single 100W lightbulb consumes more energy than running my entire computer. What we want hasn't got much to do with it. Continuing to use inefficient devices will result in a planet that no longer functions. Nobody wants that.

kylek 7y ago

RIP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Light https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Light

nhyun 7y ago
RIP? It's not burned out yet: http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm
- mirimir 7y ago
  cam: http://www.centennialbulb.org/cam.htm http://www.centennialbulb.org/cam.htm
  - kylek 7y ago
    My bad, off by about 15000 years (sorry, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17776 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17776 . The bulb is a critical part of the plot!)

macspoofing 7y ago

The worst thing about the Phoebus Cartel is that for something that lasted just a few years (and didn't really work), it is constantly cited as the quintessential example of 'planned obsolescence' and therefore one of the evils of capitalism. 'Planned obsolescence' itself, is an overstated and overrated concept that is frequently conflated with common practices like making a product cheaper through the use of lower-quality materials.

fsh 7y ago
"Planned obsolescence" and "value engineering" have almost the same effect for the customers though. Products are designed to just barely survive the EU's two year mandatory warranty period.
- andrepd 7y ago
  Maybe it's time to up that warranty period? Perhaps even different values for different kinds of products (3 years for a phone, 8 years for a washing machine, etc.).
- stevehawk 7y ago
  They may have similar effects, but their intent is very different, which means who gets blamed is very different. "Planned obsolescence" means evil, greedy corporations. "Value engineering" means consumers want "cheaper" not "better", which means we are the evil, greedy ones. But I'm not greedy, so it must be the corporations!
  - fsh 7y ago
    Intent is very hard to prove. In my last Sony laptop the keycaps were held in by hooks formed from a thin metal sheet. After a while (2.5 years in my case) the hooks start to break and the keys fell off. The keyboard was riveted and glued into the case which made it impossible to fix it. Was this the cheapest way for Sony to attach the keys to the laptop? Maybe. Did it get me to replace my otherwise perfectly fine laptop after 2.5 years? Certainly.
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jml7c5 7y ago

I'm hoping someone clever here has read a book about the cartel and can answer this question: The wiki page doesn't go into too much detail, but is there any evidence the primary goal of the cartel was primarily intended to increase energy efficiency, or was it really pure unadulterated greed? Honestly, were it for the sake of efficiency, I wouldn't mind it. Though the metric of lifetime in hours rather than lumen/watt makes my approval borderline rather than whole-hearted.

bad-joke 7y ago
The first citation on the page[1] mentions researcher Markus Krajewski who reviewed Phoebus records and concluded "It was the explicit aim of the cartel to reduce the life span of the lamps in order to increase sales [...] Economics, not physics." Cursory searches of Markus Krajewski yield an IEEE Spectrum article[2] with further references to his work: > The 2010 documentary The Light Bulb Conspiracy explores the Phoebus cartel as an early example of planned obsolescence and includes interviews with Markus Krajewski. For more on the cartel and planned obsolescence, see the author’s "Fehler-Planungen. Zur Geschichte und Theorie der industriellen Obsoleszenz," in Technikgeschichte, vol. 81, No. 1, p. 91–114, 2014, and "Vom Krieg des Lichtes zur Geschichte von Glühlampenkartellen," in Das Glühbirnenbuch, edited by Peter Berz, Helmut Höge, and Krajewski (Braumüller Verlag, 2011). Hope this helps! [1]https://outline.com/JYvASt https://outline.com/JYvASt [2]https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-history/dawn-of-electronics/the-great-lightbulb-conspiracy https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-history/dawn-of-electronics/t...

acd 7y ago

Related https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence I would argue that the current economic system does not plan for maximum longevity of products. Rather it can be more profitable for an manufacturer for planned obsolescence or simply make products which does not last that long. As long as they do not get caught that is.

donclark 7y ago
If there is such a thing as planned obsolescence of a product, why do we not require it to be listed on the packaging and/or specs? Why not also include hefty fines for products that do not have this information listed cleary (like nutritional info), listed incorrectly, or simply fail on avg before the "POdate"?
- at-fates-hands 7y ago
  I just read an interview with Adam Minter who wrote a new book called, "Secondhand: Travels in the New Global Garage Sale" which addresses this. He was talking about putting a "durability" tag on clothing and other items which point out how long they will last. For instance, for clothes, how many wash cycles can this shirt take? How long before the materials start to breakdown? This would be on all clothing and textile items and then you can let the consumer decide if they want the less expensive shirt that lasts 10 washing cycles, or the more expensive one that lasts 50 or 100 cycles. He also talked about the paradox of the secondary smartphone market. Apple's products are a great example. The iPhone takes a bit of work to to even change the battery, so now the life of the phone is almost exclusively tied to the battery and how long it lasts. Most people just toss it when the battery goes bad and upgrade to the newest version. For the people who can actually change the battery, it's created an entire secondhand market for their products. One that is incredibly useful to consumers and the techs who are able to keep the phone going once the battery dies. For Apple, it's almost an affront to their practice of voiding warranties if you open the phone up and actively discouraging the whole notion you should be able to repair your own phone instead of having to upgrade it once the battery is dead. It was a really cool interview and Adam brought up a lot of other interesting things about our "disposable" culture.

jamesakirk 7y ago

Here is the section in Gravity's Rainbow which tells the tale of Byron the Lightbulb (the longest-burning lightbulb) and his troubles with the Phoebus Cartel: https://www.tildedave.com/byron.html https://www.tildedave.com/byron.html In a book full of strange meandering asides, this was among the most memorable.

mjaniczek 7y ago
Wow that was hard to read.
voldacar 7y ago
Byron the Bulb was what got me hooked on Pynchon. He writes like a madman

ddoran 7y ago

Previous discussion 1 year ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17606748 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17606748

tomc1985 7y ago

How did I know the top post on this would be someone springing to the defense...

skrebbel 7y ago

I live in Eindhoven, home town of Philips, one of the members of this cartel. Philips is extremely loved here. They're the reason this city is a city at all, they're the reason we're a prosperous region with of lots of innovation (mostly hardware though, so not very HN-fashionable). We now have apartment buildings named after their founders ("Gerard", "Anton", etc), lunchrooms ("Meneer Frits"), the local football stadium & club are named after them, and so on. Statues. Statues! Not of a Great Leader back in some totalitarian past, but of CEOs! Imagine putting an enormous bronze Elon Musk at the SF Caltrain station square. That's Eindhoven. We love us our Philips. They were crooks. The amount of cartels Philips has been in is staggering. They've been working to screw over their customers since the very beginning. Look it up, any infamous technology cartel from the 20th century you can find, big chance Philips was on it. When cartels went out of vogue they lobbied for regulation with pretty much the same effect - Philips will do anything, legal or not, to keep their margins up. I really don't understand how easily people whitewash this shit.

pergadad 7y ago
They're crooks, but they are our crooks! And to be fair some Philips products are decent.
- skrebbel 7y ago
  That's totally besides the point though :-) Plus, unless you're referring to medical equipment, it's probably just brand licensing. Philips hardly produces any consumer electronics anymore (incl lights).
  - Mockapapella 7y ago
    I work in the lighting industry. I'm told they have a patent on the concept of attaching a driver to an LED board. We, and many other lighting companies, pay for a license to use that patent.
fogetti 7y ago
You basically described what's wrong with caputalism in general. And I agree. Everybody shits their pants when there is a statue erected for the big leader but somehow noon really seems to care about the impact of big Corp to the same effect which is EXTREMELY troubling