5 ms·
If I'm understanding this correctly, it's only first party tracking in that it comes from a subdomain of the domain of the website you are browsing. But that su
by cyborgx7 7y ago
If I'm understanding this correctly, it's only first party tracking in that it comes from a subdomain of the domain of the website you are browsing. But that subdomain points at a third party tracking provider. So this still seems like a single tracking provider on multiple website being able to correlate your browsing.
- wongarsu 7y agoYou still get full cookie separation because each website has a different subdomain and thus a different cookie. The analytics provider can track you across the internet, but they have to invest work and resources instead of getting it basically free.
- cyborgx7 7y agoI agree that this is not an insignificant aspect. But I still don't think it is therefore something that should be tolerated.
- cm2187 7y agoBut how would the provider track you across the internet with cookie separation (other than through fingerprinting)?
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 7y agoDo you have a great way to block every fingerprinting method?
- cm2187 7y agoFirefox seems to be on the case. There is really no good reason to give any means for a website to fingerprint a browser.
- gpvos 7y agoI wouldn't know, but fingerprinting is a thing and is bad enough.
- kasey_junk 7y agoThe provider a) is the other parts of the internet (think big cdn) and b) they communicate with other data brokers via a side channel instead of via cookie syncing. This is already happening with large web publishers.
- cm2187 7y agoBut even if they do that, how can they tell it is the same user on two different domains?
- squiggleblaz 7y agoWell, I'm hardly about to accept that it's legitimate to spy on me "because they invested work and resources instead of getting it basically for free". It's like, a peeping Tom who just looks through a window - yuck that's gross. But a peeping Tom who spies by building a microdrone that can fly in the door when it opens and mount itself on the ceiling with suction pads - oh that's perfectly legitimate because of the work and resources Tom invested. I mean, if it's gross to do something by accident and it's gross to do something without any investment, it's super gross to do it with resources. It's not all that hard to track someone across the internet. I think many people have demonstrate hacks that steal legitimate functionality and get you there. I think we'll probably have to go for a containerised internet (separate apps) and just deal with the disadvantages.
- input_sh 7y agouBlock origin (more specifically, EasyPrivacy list) blocks 1st party tracking as well. For example, you could spin up an instance of Matomo (formerly Piwik) for your own website and still see no traffic from adblock users by default.
- ddtaylor 7y agoThis is also why if you're using Matamo you should have it parse your access logs instead.