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I remember learning these before but due to not finding any use case for them, I already forgot how to do them properly. Only thing I regularly tie nowadays ar

I remember learning these before but due to not finding any use case for them, I already forgot how to do them properly. Only thing I regularly tie nowadays are my shoelaces. EDIT: Grammar

dokem 7y ago
I’ve also learned a number of knots. The only knot I ever really tie is the tautline hitch. The average person cannot string up a piece of rope and remove all slack because all they know is the granny or square knot. This knot is also incredibly simple and versatile. If you are reading this do yourself a favor and learn this over the next 5 minutes. The bolin should also be learned because the tautline hitch cannot be used for rescue purposes.
- mkl 7y ago
  For the curious, it's bowline: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowline
- superhuzza 7y ago
  Just so you're aware, the bowline is considered somewhat dangerous because it has a high chance of being tied incorrectly. The only real advantage it has over a double figure 8 is that it's easier to untie after dynamic cinching. https://rockandice.com/climb-safe/climb-safe-rethinking-the-double-loop-bowline/?cn-reloaded=1 https://rockandice.com/climb-safe/climb-safe-rethinking-the-...
  - sunstone 7y ago
    Interestingly, the bowline and the cat's claw are the same knot, but the cat's claw uses two rope ends rather than one and it's very simple to tie, unlike the tricky bowline.
  - ken 7y ago
    The bowline has other advantages. It's also much faster to tie than a figure-8 follow-through, for example. I imagine it takes less rope, too. We use the bowline (without backup) in industry. I've never heard of anyone having an issue with it. Any equipment is dangerous if you set it up halfway, walk away, and forget to finish. That's why you never do anything halfway. That failure mode is not specific to knots, or any particular knot.
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mkl 7y ago
> Only thing I regularly tie nowadays are my shoelaces. For that, in much less than an hour, you can learn the Ian Knot: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm It makes shoelace tying very fast and secure (the GIF at the top is how long it actually takes!).
- pbhjpbhj 7y ago
  IIRC it's just "Ian's way of tying a reef/square knot". Make sure you're not tying a granny and you're golden. If you have problems with long laces, or ones that come undone, then a surgeons knot can help. I tried Ian's method for a couple of weeks and reverted back, it was too fiddly for me.
- jholman 7y ago
  https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/betterbowknot.htm https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/betterbowknot.htm for life
  - mkl 7y ago
    Hm, well that looks much slower, and the Ian Knot never comes undone for me.
    - dvlsg 7y ago
      Ian's secure knot is great, too.
- svrtknst 7y ago
  Not that it's not a neat knot (repeat that for a tongue twister!), but I chuckled a bit at: > With practice, I can now tie my shoelaces in about one third of the time of a conventional knot! So... 1 second instead of 3? Amazing ;)
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I remember learning these before but due to not finding any use case for them, I already forgot how to do them properly. Only thing I regularly tie nowadays are my shoelaces. EDIT: Grammar

dokem 7y ago

I’ve also learned a number of knots. The only knot I ever really tie is the tautline hitch. The average person cannot string up a piece of rope and remove all slack because all they know is the granny or square knot. This knot is also incredibly simple and versatile. If you are reading this do yourself a favor and learn this over the next 5 minutes. The bolin should also be learned because the tautline hitch cannot be used for rescue purposes.

mkl 7y ago
For the curious, it's bowline: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowline
superhuzza 7y ago
Just so you're aware, the bowline is considered somewhat dangerous because it has a high chance of being tied incorrectly. The only real advantage it has over a double figure 8 is that it's easier to untie after dynamic cinching. https://rockandice.com/climb-safe/climb-safe-rethinking-the-double-loop-bowline/?cn-reloaded=1 https://rockandice.com/climb-safe/climb-safe-rethinking-the-...
- sunstone 7y ago
  Interestingly, the bowline and the cat's claw are the same knot, but the cat's claw uses two rope ends rather than one and it's very simple to tie, unlike the tricky bowline.
- ken 7y ago
  The bowline has other advantages. It's also much faster to tie than a figure-8 follow-through, for example. I imagine it takes less rope, too. We use the bowline (without backup) in industry. I've never heard of anyone having an issue with it. Any equipment is dangerous if you set it up halfway, walk away, and forget to finish. That's why you never do anything halfway. That failure mode is not specific to knots, or any particular knot.
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mkl 7y ago

> Only thing I regularly tie nowadays are my shoelaces. For that, in much less than an hour, you can learn the Ian Knot: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm It makes shoelace tying very fast and secure (the GIF at the top is how long it actually takes!).

pbhjpbhj 7y ago
IIRC it's just "Ian's way of tying a reef/square knot". Make sure you're not tying a granny and you're golden. If you have problems with long laces, or ones that come undone, then a surgeons knot can help. I tried Ian's method for a couple of weeks and reverted back, it was too fiddly for me.
jholman 7y ago
https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/betterbowknot.htm https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/betterbowknot.htm for life
- mkl 7y ago
  Hm, well that looks much slower, and the Ian Knot never comes undone for me.
  - dvlsg 7y ago
    Ian's secure knot is great, too.
svrtknst 7y ago
Not that it's not a neat knot (repeat that for a tongue twister!), but I chuckled a bit at: > With practice, I can now tie my shoelaces in about one third of the time of a conventional knot! So... 1 second instead of 3? Amazing ;)

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