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> First it’s not an invasion, it’s an incursion. This is a really weird hair to try to split, given that the two words are essentially synonymous. > When an a

> First it’s not an invasion, it’s an incursion. This is a really weird hair to try to split, given that the two words are essentially synonymous. > When an army crosses a border into another country for battle, they are making an incursion into enemy territory. An incursion is an invasion as well as an attack.[0] > [An incursion is] An aggressive movement into somewhere; an invasion[1] > Invasion is a synonym for incursion in attack topic.[2] ...and so forth. [0] https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/incursion https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/incursion [1] https://wikidiff.com/invasion/incursion https://wikidiff.com/invasion/incursion [2] https://thesaurus.plus/related/incursion/invasion https://thesaurus.plus/related/incursion/invasion

mc32 7y ago
They are not the same. The Russians have incursions into our airspace and we do similarly to them. We don’t call those “invasions”. An invasion is more physical in terms of control. When you invade you’re attempting to control an area with troops some time accompanied by non local pop. An incursion may result in extrication, surveillance or reconnaissance, those sorts of things.
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  > We don’t call those “invasions”. Yes, but that's about politics and emotional connotation, not denotation.
  - mc32 7y ago
    I don’t think so. Someone can accidentally veer into sovereign waters and or air, sometimes land. There is no intention to establish foothold or control. Those are incursions, even when intentional. Invasion is quite involved and usually requires troops to establish foothold and perhaps control over an area. We, the US invaded Grenada, even if it was just momentary. We established control, sent armed troops, etc. Flying reconnaissance over Havana is an incursion but not an invasion.
- nradov 7y ago
  This is (mostly) false. The US and Russians hardly ever intentionally "incur" into each others' airspace. That basically stopped in the 1960s because the risk is just too high. Even accidental incursions are exceedingly rare now due to better navigational equipment. The US and Russians do legally conduct authorized reconnaissance flights over each other's airspace. This is authorized under the terms of the Open Skies Treaty and is specifically not an incursion. https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/openskies https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/openskies

mc32 7y ago

They are not the same. The Russians have incursions into our airspace and we do similarly to them. We don’t call those “invasions”. An invasion is more physical in terms of control. When you invade you’re attempting to control an area with troops some time accompanied by non local pop. An incursion may result in extrication, surveillance or reconnaissance, those sorts of things.

dragonwriter 7y ago
> We don’t call those “invasions”. Yes, but that's about politics and emotional connotation, not denotation.
- mc32 7y ago
  I don’t think so. Someone can accidentally veer into sovereign waters and or air, sometimes land. There is no intention to establish foothold or control. Those are incursions, even when intentional. Invasion is quite involved and usually requires troops to establish foothold and perhaps control over an area. We, the US invaded Grenada, even if it was just momentary. We established control, sent armed troops, etc. Flying reconnaissance over Havana is an incursion but not an invasion.
nradov 7y ago
This is (mostly) false. The US and Russians hardly ever intentionally "incur" into each others' airspace. That basically stopped in the 1960s because the risk is just too high. Even accidental incursions are exceedingly rare now due to better navigational equipment. The US and Russians do legally conduct authorized reconnaissance flights over each other's airspace. This is authorized under the terms of the Open Skies Treaty and is specifically not an incursion. https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/openskies https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/openskies