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Personally, I prefer the MBP2015 keyboard to the Magic Keyboard. I have been to an Apple Store recently to try out the MBP16's keyboard and it's good - but not

Personally, I prefer the MBP2015 keyboard to the Magic Keyboard. I have been to an Apple Store recently to try out the MBP16's keyboard and it's good - but not as good as the one I'm typing this on. I also don't understand the obsession with key stability on the corners. I like the instability. I use it when I'm touch typing - it gives my fingers a lot more tactile feedback.

torgian 7y ago
That probably means the keyboard isn’t that good ;) Sloppiness shouldn’t make it feel better.
- dannyw 7y ago
  Instability allows you to know exactly where your fingertip is positioned once you know it.
  - visarga 7y ago
    Having the keycaps slightly curved inside allows for better finger positioning.
    - ahartmetz 7y ago
      Yes! Fujitsu desktop keyboards have rather pronounced concave keys - not fashionable but very nice to type on. (They have also figured out tactile response with rubber domes.)
    - lostgame 7y ago
      I miss the 2004-2007 PowerBook / OG MacBook Pro keyboard. Curved keys, great feeling on depression, this was paradise for me.
  - cassianoleal 7y ago
    Exactly this. Also, the instability means the keyboard is more forgiving of small aim mistakes. If my finger presses 10% of the wrong key and 90% of the right one, key stability on the corners will mean the keyboard registers both. On the 2015 keyboard it only registers the one I meant. The fact that it wobbles also gives my fingers an extra milisecond to adjust position if it feels it's wrong. It's also more obvious when I did hit the wrong place and I can automatically reach for the backspace/delete key without even thinking or noticing the wrong key visually on screen. It's overall a more fluid typing experience. This is especially useful when I'm typing at night or if my fingers are not moving optimally - like when they're cold or otherwise tight or tired.
ksec 7y ago
>I also don't understand the obsession with key stability on the corners. I like the instability. I use it when I'm touch typing - it gives my fingers a lot more tactile feedback. This!. Along with smaller Keys and hence more spacing between keys. Little things like these you dont appreciate but you will notice once they are gone. I love the instability.
- cassianoleal 7y ago
  Yes, smaller keys is nice too. The MBP16's are smaller than the ones on the butterfly but larger than the 2015's. Again, good. But could be better.
tambourine_man 7y ago
To each their own I guess. I freaking love the stability and can't go back. Everything else seems like a toy keyboard in comparison.
oefrha 7y ago
I have a Mid-2015 15’’ MBP and a Magic Keyboard (about 2-year old) sitting in front me side by side right now, and I use both every day. I definitely prefer the Magic Keyboard.
boardwaalk 7y ago
Can you really tell if you don’t like the older keyboard more because of familiarity after a few minutes with the new one? I can’t. I just got the Magic Keyboard and it’s still growing on me after a few days.
- geerlingguy 7y ago
  I've been using a magic keyboard for the past few years, and any time I type on the older 2015 MacBook pro's keyboard now, it feels like I'm pressing my fingers into a mushy sponge. For me, at least, the Magic Keyboard is the happy medium between the too short action on the 2016-19 Pro keyboards, and the too deep action on the 2015 and earlier,
  - mondieu 7y ago
    Absolutely agree, and if that's the design they've gone with then I see an upgrade coming soon.
  - dognotdog 7y ago
    Interesting, I work on a '14 MBP and one of the new full size magic keyboards, and while the MBP feels slightly softer, I never noticed any discomfort or annoyance, and didn't know the '15 had a significantly different keyboard.
- cassianoleal 7y ago
  I can, mostly because my main computer has the first-gen butterfly keyboard - the worst I've ever had the displeasure to type on. I'm not even used to typing on the MBP2015 anymore, but every time I pick it up (which is every few weeks in general) it's just great. The Magic Keyboard (both the external ones and the MBP16's) is good, just not as good.

torgian 7y ago

That probably means the keyboard isn’t that good ;) Sloppiness shouldn’t make it feel better.

dannyw 7y ago
Instability allows you to know exactly where your fingertip is positioned once you know it.
- visarga 7y ago
  Having the keycaps slightly curved inside allows for better finger positioning.
  - ahartmetz 7y ago
    Yes! Fujitsu desktop keyboards have rather pronounced concave keys - not fashionable but very nice to type on. (They have also figured out tactile response with rubber domes.)
  - lostgame 7y ago
    I miss the 2004-2007 PowerBook / OG MacBook Pro keyboard. Curved keys, great feeling on depression, this was paradise for me.
- cassianoleal 7y ago
  Exactly this. Also, the instability means the keyboard is more forgiving of small aim mistakes. If my finger presses 10% of the wrong key and 90% of the right one, key stability on the corners will mean the keyboard registers both. On the 2015 keyboard it only registers the one I meant. The fact that it wobbles also gives my fingers an extra milisecond to adjust position if it feels it's wrong. It's also more obvious when I did hit the wrong place and I can automatically reach for the backspace/delete key without even thinking or noticing the wrong key visually on screen. It's overall a more fluid typing experience. This is especially useful when I'm typing at night or if my fingers are not moving optimally - like when they're cold or otherwise tight or tired.

ksec 7y ago

>I also don't understand the obsession with key stability on the corners. I like the instability. I use it when I'm touch typing - it gives my fingers a lot more tactile feedback. This!. Along with smaller Keys and hence more spacing between keys. Little things like these you dont appreciate but you will notice once they are gone. I love the instability.

cassianoleal 7y ago
Yes, smaller keys is nice too. The MBP16's are smaller than the ones on the butterfly but larger than the 2015's. Again, good. But could be better.

tambourine_man 7y ago

To each their own I guess. I freaking love the stability and can't go back. Everything else seems like a toy keyboard in comparison.

oefrha 7y ago

I have a Mid-2015 15’’ MBP and a Magic Keyboard (about 2-year old) sitting in front me side by side right now, and I use both every day. I definitely prefer the Magic Keyboard.

boardwaalk 7y ago

Can you really tell if you don’t like the older keyboard more because of familiarity after a few minutes with the new one? I can’t. I just got the Magic Keyboard and it’s still growing on me after a few days.

geerlingguy 7y ago
I've been using a magic keyboard for the past few years, and any time I type on the older 2015 MacBook pro's keyboard now, it feels like I'm pressing my fingers into a mushy sponge. For me, at least, the Magic Keyboard is the happy medium between the too short action on the 2016-19 Pro keyboards, and the too deep action on the 2015 and earlier,
- mondieu 7y ago
  Absolutely agree, and if that's the design they've gone with then I see an upgrade coming soon.
- dognotdog 7y ago
  Interesting, I work on a '14 MBP and one of the new full size magic keyboards, and while the MBP feels slightly softer, I never noticed any discomfort or annoyance, and didn't know the '15 had a significantly different keyboard.
cassianoleal 7y ago
I can, mostly because my main computer has the first-gen butterfly keyboard - the worst I've ever had the displeasure to type on. I'm not even used to typing on the MBP2015 anymore, but every time I pick it up (which is every few weeks in general) it's just great. The Magic Keyboard (both the external ones and the MBP16's) is good, just not as good.