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There are people who do not want to install four hundred messaging apps. There are even people who do not want to install one messaging app. Calls and texts a

There are people who do not want to install four hundred messaging apps. There are even people who do not want to install one messaging app. Calls and texts are included in phone plans, and despite Facebook's marketing, there are still more SMS users than Whatsapp users. There is no ideal cellular messaging protocol. People aren't going to change programs because some computer person is enamored with a specific encryption platform.

copperx 7y ago
What's interesting is that in other countries such as Mexico, there is no such thing as SMS. Yes, SMS exists but nobody uses it. Nobody. You either send a WhatsApp message or you can't communicate.
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- frosted-flakes 7y ago
  Nobody uses even the Messages application on iOS? Somehow, I doubt that.
  - copperx 7y ago
    Most people use sub-$200 handsets, so the penetration of iPhones is very low and only the high class uses them. Within small social circles (mostly within the family), they use iMessage. But to communicate with anyone else, they use WhatsApp. I know a few high powered lawyers. They use WhatsApp exclusively. WhatsApp penetration in Mexico must be about 99% in my estimation.
  - kalleboo 7y ago
    It's the same situation in Japan. I've lived here for 5 years and literally never, not once, sent or received a message to anyone else here in Japan using the iOS Messages app. LINE messenger penetration is 100%. You don't ask for someone's phone number, you ask for their LINE username. And if you want to call them you use LINE's voice calling feature (which uses data so doesn't cost you minutes). I don't have anyone's personal phone number aside from my wife. Even my elderly mother-in-law makes calls using LINE. My iOS Messages app is just pages and pages of phone number verification and 2FA texts, and then one group chat with remote coworkers abroad.

copperx 7y ago

What's interesting is that in other countries such as Mexico, there is no such thing as SMS. Yes, SMS exists but nobody uses it. Nobody. You either send a WhatsApp message or you can't communicate.

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frosted-flakes 7y ago
Nobody uses even the Messages application on iOS? Somehow, I doubt that.
- copperx 7y ago
  Most people use sub-$200 handsets, so the penetration of iPhones is very low and only the high class uses them. Within small social circles (mostly within the family), they use iMessage. But to communicate with anyone else, they use WhatsApp. I know a few high powered lawyers. They use WhatsApp exclusively. WhatsApp penetration in Mexico must be about 99% in my estimation.
- kalleboo 7y ago
  It's the same situation in Japan. I've lived here for 5 years and literally never, not once, sent or received a message to anyone else here in Japan using the iOS Messages app. LINE messenger penetration is 100%. You don't ask for someone's phone number, you ask for their LINE username. And if you want to call them you use LINE's voice calling feature (which uses data so doesn't cost you minutes). I don't have anyone's personal phone number aside from my wife. Even my elderly mother-in-law makes calls using LINE. My iOS Messages app is just pages and pages of phone number verification and 2FA texts, and then one group chat with remote coworkers abroad.