> First our universities aren't somehow in an ephemeral plane absent of any police jurisdiction Right but you need a warrant, which the police did not have and

> First our universities aren't somehow in an ephemeral plane absent of any police jurisdiction Right but you need a warrant, which the police did not have and never got, because they weren't there to arrest anyone in particular, because they had no cause, because this is a terror tactic. > second it seems the number of petrol bombs (I heard 400) was enormous pointing to some large capacity being built up there It's real easy to build a molotov, especially if you have a bunch of protestors working in an assembly line. Which is fortunate, because that's probably the only thing that kept the cops from arresting scores of innocent students to be beaten and raped in jail. People have the right to defend themselves. HKPF are genuinely a threat to Hongkongers and have lost all legitimacy. It's a true tragedy, but the time for excuses and apologists is past.