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I haven’t tried 1password, I have been using LastPass, would you recommend I switch?

tnorthcutt 7y ago
Without hesitation. The user experience with 1Password is far better than LastPass (I’ve used both).
NeedMoreTea 7y ago
Not any more. It used to be a no brainer, but they switched to cloud based subscription at great cost increase, loss of some features, and dark-patterned the native app into invisibility. Native is still available apparently, but you won't find it from the homepage, unless they were persuaded to change recently. Report an error in the native app, and they suggest switching to cloud subscription without addressing the error at all. When my current native install of 1pw stops working I'll be migrating elsewhere.
- ValentineC 7y ago
  > Native is still available apparently, but you won't find it from the homepage, unless they were persuaded to change recently. I haven't verified this myself, but standalone licences seem to be available for purchase in the app itself: https://discussions.agilebits.com/discussion/92275/how-do-i-purchase-a-standalone-license-of-1password-7 https://discussions.agilebits.com/discussion/92275/how-do-i-...
  - MrFoof 7y ago
    Can verify that it's possible. Recently (past 30 days) did an upgrade to 7 with a standalone license.
  - NeedMoreTea 7y ago
    Which until someone had to ask the question on the forum, having been unable to find any word, was not revealed at all on their main site, which was all about getting you on the sub. You wouldn't normally download the next (unlicensed) version on the off chance the buying mechanism has been quietly put in there instead. The former significant discounts for buying both phone and desktop, or Mac and Windows at the same time are gone too. Hence it's there, but intentionally dark patterned to near invisibility. They would prefer everyone on the pointlessly expensive sub.
- vsl 7y ago
  The subscription version still uses native app. It’s not a webpage or electron crap. From context, you mean “one-time purchase”.
warpech 7y ago
Bitwarden IMO beats LastPass and 1Password. Very polished, hassle free experience
- swozey 7y ago
  Bitwarden didn't allow Android fingerprinting when I used it a few months ago (limitation in one of their electron libraries) which pretty much ruined it for me unfortunately. Not sure if this works in IOS. edit: I'm wrong, it didn't support touchID in OSX https://community.bitwarden.com/t/touch-id-support-for-macos/568?page=2 https://community.bitwarden.com/t/touch-id-support-for-macos...
- Eric_WVGG 7y ago
  the Mac client doesn’t support biometric login (TouchID), which we’ve only had on these computers for about four years...
  - wlesieutre 7y ago
    Electron finally added support for TouchID a few months ago (version 6), so hopefully that's coming
    - ble52 7y ago
      And that's one of the major reasons for me to choose 1Password - native apps on macOS, iOS and Windows
  - mathieuh 7y ago
    Are you on an old version? I’ve been using TouchID with 1Password on Mac and FaceID on iPhone for as long as I can remember them being a thing I think when they switched to subscription model they left people who didn’t switch on an old version
    - stevewodil 7y ago
      I believe they were referring to lack of TouchID support in Bitwarden, not in 1Password.
overcast 7y ago
Yes, immediately, we use LastPass in the corporate world, and it's horrific to deal with. Slow, bloated, mess of an interface. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21172569 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21172569 is a good discussion on it.
latortuga 7y ago
Yes 100%. I was a lastpass user for years but it always had its quirks for me. I switched to 1P within the last year and it is miles better and "Just Works", everywhere. I or someone in my house use 1P on Ubuntu, Android, iPhone, and macos, and it is a seamless and wonderful experience.
greggman2 7y ago
yes! go read LastPass's privacy policy. They spy on everything you do and share it with anyone and everyone.
- jsutton 7y ago
  This is outright false, no basis in fact whatsoever.
  - deleted 7y ago
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  - greggman2 7y ago
    From their Privacy Policy > 1. Information We Collect and Receive > Service Data (including Session and Usage data): > When you use our Services, we receive information generated through the use of the Service, either entered by you or others who use the Services with you (for example, schedules, attendee info, etc.), or from the Service infrastructure itself, (for example, duration of session, use of webcams, connection information, etc.) We may also collect usage and log data about how the services are accessed and used, including information about the device you are using the Services on, IP addresses, location information, language settings, what operating system you are using, unique device identifiers and other diagnostic data ... > Third Party Data: We may receive information about you from other sources, including publicly available databases or third parties from whom we have purchased data, and combine this data with information we already have about you. We may also receive information from other affiliated companies that are a part of our corporate group. This helps us to update, expand and analyze our records, identify new prospects for marketing, and provide products and services that may be of interest to you. > Location Information: We collect your location-based information for the purpose of providing and supporting the service and for fraud prevention and security monitoring. If you wish to opt-out of the collection and use of your collection information, you may do so by turning it off on your device settings. > Device Information: When you use our Services, we automatically collect information on the type of device you use, operating system version, and the device identifier (or "UDID"). That's pretty much everything given they put an extension in your browser and can collect all of that info for every page you visit > 4. Information Sharing > ... We may share your personal information with (a) third party service providers; (b) business partners; (c) affiliated companies within our corporate structure > Examples of how we may share information with service providers include: The above basically says they share your info with anyone they feel like So I don't know how you think my comment has no basis in fact. They spell out what they can do in their privacy policy. Why would they spell it out if they weren't doing it? Compare to 1password (note I use neither service and am in no way affiliated with 1password but for comparison it's telling > Your data is yours, and we don't want to know anything about it. We don't use it, we don't share it, and we don't sell it. > We only collect the information necessary to provide our services and help you with troubleshooting. Personally identifiable information is never shared with third parties. People on HN complain about Google collecting and yet we seem to have LastPass with access to all webpages you visit and also able to track every service you use them with an their policy basically says they collect and share your data (something even Google doesn't do. AFAIK google doesn't share data)
joegahona 7y ago
I tried 1Password before switching to LastPass in 2015 or so. I hated 1Password. Haven't had a reason to switch, as free LastPass covers my needs nicely.
- hk__2 7y ago
  > I hated 1Password. This is not helpful. Why did you hate it?

Without hesitation. The user experience with 1Password is far better than LastPass (I’ve used both).

Not any more. It used to be a no brainer, but they switched to cloud based subscription at great cost increase, loss of some features, and dark-patterned the native app into invisibility. Native is still available apparently, but you won't find it from the homepage, unless they were persuaded to change recently. Report an error in the native app, and they suggest switching to cloud subscription without addressing the error at all. When my current native install of 1pw stops working I'll be migrating elsewhere.

ValentineC 7y ago
> Native is still available apparently, but you won't find it from the homepage, unless they were persuaded to change recently. I haven't verified this myself, but standalone licences seem to be available for purchase in the app itself: https://discussions.agilebits.com/discussion/92275/how-do-i-purchase-a-standalone-license-of-1password-7 https://discussions.agilebits.com/discussion/92275/how-do-i-...
- MrFoof 7y ago
  Can verify that it's possible. Recently (past 30 days) did an upgrade to 7 with a standalone license.
- NeedMoreTea 7y ago
  Which until someone had to ask the question on the forum, having been unable to find any word, was not revealed at all on their main site, which was all about getting you on the sub. You wouldn't normally download the next (unlicensed) version on the off chance the buying mechanism has been quietly put in there instead. The former significant discounts for buying both phone and desktop, or Mac and Windows at the same time are gone too. Hence it's there, but intentionally dark patterned to near invisibility. They would prefer everyone on the pointlessly expensive sub.
vsl 7y ago
The subscription version still uses native app. It’s not a webpage or electron crap. From context, you mean “one-time purchase”.

warpech 7y ago

Bitwarden IMO beats LastPass and 1Password. Very polished, hassle free experience

swozey 7y ago
Bitwarden didn't allow Android fingerprinting when I used it a few months ago (limitation in one of their electron libraries) which pretty much ruined it for me unfortunately. Not sure if this works in IOS. edit: I'm wrong, it didn't support touchID in OSX https://community.bitwarden.com/t/touch-id-support-for-macos/568?page=2 https://community.bitwarden.com/t/touch-id-support-for-macos...
Eric_WVGG 7y ago
the Mac client doesn’t support biometric login (TouchID), which we’ve only had on these computers for about four years...
- wlesieutre 7y ago
  Electron finally added support for TouchID a few months ago (version 6), so hopefully that's coming
  - ble52 7y ago
    And that's one of the major reasons for me to choose 1Password - native apps on macOS, iOS and Windows
- mathieuh 7y ago
  Are you on an old version? I’ve been using TouchID with 1Password on Mac and FaceID on iPhone for as long as I can remember them being a thing I think when they switched to subscription model they left people who didn’t switch on an old version
  - stevewodil 7y ago
    I believe they were referring to lack of TouchID support in Bitwarden, not in 1Password.

overcast 7y ago

Yes, immediately, we use LastPass in the corporate world, and it's horrific to deal with. Slow, bloated, mess of an interface. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21172569 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21172569 is a good discussion on it.

latortuga 7y ago

Yes 100%. I was a lastpass user for years but it always had its quirks for me. I switched to 1P within the last year and it is miles better and "Just Works", everywhere. I or someone in my house use 1P on Ubuntu, Android, iPhone, and macos, and it is a seamless and wonderful experience.

greggman2 7y ago

yes! go read LastPass's privacy policy. They spy on everything you do and share it with anyone and everyone.

jsutton 7y ago
This is outright false, no basis in fact whatsoever.
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- greggman2 7y ago
  From their Privacy Policy > 1. Information We Collect and Receive > Service Data (including Session and Usage data): > When you use our Services, we receive information generated through the use of the Service, either entered by you or others who use the Services with you (for example, schedules, attendee info, etc.), or from the Service infrastructure itself, (for example, duration of session, use of webcams, connection information, etc.) We may also collect usage and log data about how the services are accessed and used, including information about the device you are using the Services on, IP addresses, location information, language settings, what operating system you are using, unique device identifiers and other diagnostic data ... > Third Party Data: We may receive information about you from other sources, including publicly available databases or third parties from whom we have purchased data, and combine this data with information we already have about you. We may also receive information from other affiliated companies that are a part of our corporate group. This helps us to update, expand and analyze our records, identify new prospects for marketing, and provide products and services that may be of interest to you. > Location Information: We collect your location-based information for the purpose of providing and supporting the service and for fraud prevention and security monitoring. If you wish to opt-out of the collection and use of your collection information, you may do so by turning it off on your device settings. > Device Information: When you use our Services, we automatically collect information on the type of device you use, operating system version, and the device identifier (or "UDID"). That's pretty much everything given they put an extension in your browser and can collect all of that info for every page you visit > 4. Information Sharing > ... We may share your personal information with (a) third party service providers; (b) business partners; (c) affiliated companies within our corporate structure > Examples of how we may share information with service providers include: The above basically says they share your info with anyone they feel like So I don't know how you think my comment has no basis in fact. They spell out what they can do in their privacy policy. Why would they spell it out if they weren't doing it? Compare to 1password (note I use neither service and am in no way affiliated with 1password but for comparison it's telling > Your data is yours, and we don't want to know anything about it. We don't use it, we don't share it, and we don't sell it. > We only collect the information necessary to provide our services and help you with troubleshooting. Personally identifiable information is never shared with third parties. People on HN complain about Google collecting and yet we seem to have LastPass with access to all webpages you visit and also able to track every service you use them with an their policy basically says they collect and share your data (something even Google doesn't do. AFAIK google doesn't share data)

joegahona 7y ago

I tried 1Password before switching to LastPass in 2015 or so. I hated 1Password. Haven't had a reason to switch, as free LastPass covers my needs nicely.

hk__2 7y ago
> I hated 1Password. This is not helpful. Why did you hate it?