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I think sea otters also play another critical role in California's ecosystem. Sea urchins eat kelp forests. Sea otters eat sea urchins. Abalone live in kelp fo

I think sea otters also play another critical role in California's ecosystem. Sea urchins eat kelp forests. Sea otters eat sea urchins. Abalone live in kelp forests. So I think that when sea otters are alive, then there are more kelp forests, which leads to more abalone net...even if sea otters are eating abalone.

nradov 7y ago
The purple sea urchins which are currently destroying California's kelp forests are nearly inedible. They aren't the same urchin species that people eat in sushi. There's very little actual meat under the shell. Sea otters will only eat them when there's nothing else available.
- jboggan 7y ago
  Not nearly inedible, just not commercially practical for the effort versus the amount of meat inside. I prefer their taste over the commercially sold reds, they are sweeter in a wider range of seasons. Purple uni crushed up with soy sauce is the perfect sauce for sheephead sashimi.
  - daotoad 7y ago
    Spread this information to any sushi chefs you know. The opportunity to help sustainable fisheries by eating puple urchins into obscurity is huge. It's what our economic system is best at.
    - nradov 7y ago
      By "inedible" I didn't mean that purple urchins taste bad necessarily (acquired taste). It's just that shelling them takes so much work that it's not worth the effort for chefs. There are millions and millions all along the coast; convincing a few people to eat them won't make a dent in the population.
      - daotoad 7y ago
        That's what we thought about abalone, dodos, passenger pigeons and buffalo. Fugu isn't exactly easy to process for eating, but people are willing to pay a LOT of money for the privilege of eating it. All you need is the right marketing, and purple urchins will be like hen's teeth within 10 years.
    - jboggan 7y ago
      Even if there were an increase in demand for the purples you'd still be hard pressed to get them commercially, California has been squeezing the number of licensed commercial boats down to about 100 and the market's flexibility is constrained by that.
- pvaldes 7y ago
  Purple Sea urchins are an appreciated "connoisseur" dish in all Southern countries of Europe. They are really, really good in fact, with a fine flavour and soft taste, but only when in season, when they feed on the appropriate algae and when taken from a clean source.

nradov 7y ago

The purple sea urchins which are currently destroying California's kelp forests are nearly inedible. They aren't the same urchin species that people eat in sushi. There's very little actual meat under the shell. Sea otters will only eat them when there's nothing else available.

jboggan 7y ago
Not nearly inedible, just not commercially practical for the effort versus the amount of meat inside. I prefer their taste over the commercially sold reds, they are sweeter in a wider range of seasons. Purple uni crushed up with soy sauce is the perfect sauce for sheephead sashimi.
- daotoad 7y ago
  Spread this information to any sushi chefs you know. The opportunity to help sustainable fisheries by eating puple urchins into obscurity is huge. It's what our economic system is best at.
  - nradov 7y ago
    By "inedible" I didn't mean that purple urchins taste bad necessarily (acquired taste). It's just that shelling them takes so much work that it's not worth the effort for chefs. There are millions and millions all along the coast; convincing a few people to eat them won't make a dent in the population.
    - daotoad 7y ago
      That's what we thought about abalone, dodos, passenger pigeons and buffalo. Fugu isn't exactly easy to process for eating, but people are willing to pay a LOT of money for the privilege of eating it. All you need is the right marketing, and purple urchins will be like hen's teeth within 10 years.
  - jboggan 7y ago
    Even if there were an increase in demand for the purples you'd still be hard pressed to get them commercially, California has been squeezing the number of licensed commercial boats down to about 100 and the market's flexibility is constrained by that.
pvaldes 7y ago
Purple Sea urchins are an appreciated "connoisseur" dish in all Southern countries of Europe. They are really, really good in fact, with a fine flavour and soft taste, but only when in season, when they feed on the appropriate algae and when taken from a clean source.