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A lot of people shitting on the website in this thread, but it seems to me like you guys are missing the point - this isn't a site targeted towards people who a

A lot of people shitting on the website in this thread, but it seems to me like you guys are missing the point - this isn't a site targeted towards people who aren't using it currently - it's a site targeting the true believers to give them more concrete actions they can take to help spread the faith.

pimmen 7y ago
If it contributes nothing to the discussion of actually making Perl a language useful to the problems developers face today, the site deserves the criticism.
- chrisseaton 7y ago
  > If it contributes nothing to the discussion of actually making Perl a language useful to the problems developers face today It does - for example it talks about a project to make Perl faster.
  - oefrha 7y ago
    > a project to make Perl faster. That’s respectable and worthwhile regardless, but I don’t think performance was a major factor in Perl’s decline. If I start a project right now in Python instead of Perl, it will have absolutely nothing to do with Perl not being fast enough. That is to say, I doubt performance improvements of Perl 5 will help much in regaining ground.
oefrha 7y ago
While there are some actionable pieces of advice on the page, a large percentage is misguided and if taken seriously would simply waste already strained resources. Mobile apps and 3D games in Perl 5? Might become someone’s toy, but good luck finding any adoption... Perl 5 taught in every high school? Give me a break...
mst 7y ago
The true believers are using perl. Neither rperl nor cperl is compatible with perl at this time, and the authors of both didn't so much burn their bridges as dynamite them on the way out of the mainstream community. If it was simply what you thought it was, I'd be in favour. Instead, it's a cynical attempt to capitalise on the raku rename and draw off support from actual perl users to their weird-ass not-exactly-perl projects :(

pimmen 7y ago

If it contributes nothing to the discussion of actually making Perl a language useful to the problems developers face today, the site deserves the criticism.

chrisseaton 7y ago
> If it contributes nothing to the discussion of actually making Perl a language useful to the problems developers face today It does - for example it talks about a project to make Perl faster.
- oefrha 7y ago
  > a project to make Perl faster. That’s respectable and worthwhile regardless, but I don’t think performance was a major factor in Perl’s decline. If I start a project right now in Python instead of Perl, it will have absolutely nothing to do with Perl not being fast enough. That is to say, I doubt performance improvements of Perl 5 will help much in regaining ground.

oefrha 7y ago

While there are some actionable pieces of advice on the page, a large percentage is misguided and if taken seriously would simply waste already strained resources. Mobile apps and 3D games in Perl 5? Might become someone’s toy, but good luck finding any adoption... Perl 5 taught in every high school? Give me a break...

mst 7y ago

The true believers are using perl. Neither rperl nor cperl is compatible with perl at this time, and the authors of both didn't so much burn their bridges as dynamite them on the way out of the mainstream community. If it was simply what you thought it was, I'd be in favour. Instead, it's a cynical attempt to capitalise on the raku rename and draw off support from actual perl users to their weird-ass not-exactly-perl projects :(