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I'm pretty sure that Tumblr can certainly afford bad PR like this. Show me an example of a company that was, actually, hurt by something like this. One example,

by spolsky 16y ago

I'm pretty sure that Tumblr can certainly afford bad PR like this. Show me an example of a company that was, actually, hurt by something like this. One example, please. Every high school kid in New York uses Tumblr every minute of every day. None of them even know who David is, and those that do, revere him.

rriepe 16y ago
And Steve Jobs could kick a puppy as his next "one more thing." It doesn't mean shareholders would be happy about it. "We can afford it" is a terrible response to bad PR. He needs to act quickly and make this right. Apologize. Give the guy a free account or something. Everything is (mostly) better. I'm convinced that half of a PR person's work is convincing others to get over themselves.
- glesperance 16y ago
  If someone -- or any company for the matter -- can afford or not bad PR is way beyond the point. The thing is : you usersy might be wrong,or might be right ; but the point is more that users are your even more than your whole business, giving them a good experience is your ultimate goal ; not just selling them a microblogging app. In my opinion, comparison to steve jobs / apple here are extremely irrelevant ; yes, steve jobs might have earned the right to be obnoxious to bad clients, but the point is that apple as a company doesn't. For one thing, its because their marketing goes hand in hand with their excellent customer service that this company is successful. Not because one compensate for the other. Its really a shame that somebody can treat its user base like that.
- masklinn 16y ago
  > It doesn't mean shareholders would be happy about it. Actually, shareholders would probably be ecstatic.
  - pyre 16y ago
    ... And Apple forums would be rife with explanations about how kicking is a better way to interface with puppies than petting them.
  - ugh 16y ago
    Apple’s stocks haven’t grown very rapidly in the last months, at least compared to Apple’s earnings. Apple is making shitloads of money, giving shareholders every reason to be ecstatic but they don’t really seem to be. Apple’s stock is growing conservatively.
AdamN 16y ago
@spolsky Why are you so invested in this? If a CEO has nothing good to say, he needs to say nothing. That's his fiduciary responsibility and I'm sure the board has the same opinion.
- GVRV 16y ago
  USV is an investor in StackOverflow and Tumblr.
  - pclark 16y ago
    StackOverflow really doesn't benefit that much if Tumblr turns into a 1Bn company (which it probably will eventually) If Tumblr makes USV huge returns, they can raise a new fund (not like they would struggle right now..) but most funds require "new investments" so why would Spolsky profit other than being a nice guy?
  - samengland 16y ago
    That explains a lot
nhangen 16y ago
Perhaps, but tech geeks and early adopters like us can have a big influence on the swing of the pendulum and whether something is cool and hip, or lame. If more Tumblr fans become ex-Tumblr fans, then your tune might change.
- robgough 16y ago
  Early adopters influence initial take up. Tumblr is way beyond this now. Once it's reached the high school kids, then it can't really be called "early" any more. They'll only move on once the service is no longer seen as cool, and the early adopters have - at a modest estimate - absolutely nothing at all to do with this.
msy 16y ago
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arepb 16y ago
@spolsky An example of a company that was hurt by the CEO being a dick? Um, I don't know, how about every single one? This is why most CEOs don't do customer service. Especially one that has eleventy billion users and a ton of money. People often confuse being curt like this with being effective. Often it's just some guy who had a bad day, is an insufferable asshole or some combo of the above. Customer service and 1 on 1 s with users should never be handled by people like that, though.

by spolsky 16y ago

rriepe 16y ago

And Steve Jobs could kick a puppy as his next "one more thing." It doesn't mean shareholders would be happy about it. "We can afford it" is a terrible response to bad PR. He needs to act quickly and make this right. Apologize. Give the guy a free account or something. Everything is (mostly) better. I'm convinced that half of a PR person's work is convincing others to get over themselves.

glesperance 16y ago
If someone -- or any company for the matter -- can afford or not bad PR is way beyond the point. The thing is : you usersy might be wrong,or might be right ; but the point is more that users are your even more than your whole business, giving them a good experience is your ultimate goal ; not just selling them a microblogging app. In my opinion, comparison to steve jobs / apple here are extremely irrelevant ; yes, steve jobs might have earned the right to be obnoxious to bad clients, but the point is that apple as a company doesn't. For one thing, its because their marketing goes hand in hand with their excellent customer service that this company is successful. Not because one compensate for the other. Its really a shame that somebody can treat its user base like that.
masklinn 16y ago
> It doesn't mean shareholders would be happy about it. Actually, shareholders would probably be ecstatic.
- pyre 16y ago
  ... And Apple forums would be rife with explanations about how kicking is a better way to interface with puppies than petting them.
- ugh 16y ago
  Apple’s stocks haven’t grown very rapidly in the last months, at least compared to Apple’s earnings. Apple is making shitloads of money, giving shareholders every reason to be ecstatic but they don’t really seem to be. Apple’s stock is growing conservatively.

AdamN 16y ago

@spolsky Why are you so invested in this? If a CEO has nothing good to say, he needs to say nothing. That's his fiduciary responsibility and I'm sure the board has the same opinion.

GVRV 16y ago
USV is an investor in StackOverflow and Tumblr.
- pclark 16y ago
  StackOverflow really doesn't benefit that much if Tumblr turns into a 1Bn company (which it probably will eventually) If Tumblr makes USV huge returns, they can raise a new fund (not like they would struggle right now..) but most funds require "new investments" so why would Spolsky profit other than being a nice guy?
- samengland 16y ago
  That explains a lot

nhangen 16y ago

Perhaps, but tech geeks and early adopters like us can have a big influence on the swing of the pendulum and whether something is cool and hip, or lame. If more Tumblr fans become ex-Tumblr fans, then your tune might change.

robgough 16y ago
Early adopters influence initial take up. Tumblr is way beyond this now. Once it's reached the high school kids, then it can't really be called "early" any more. They'll only move on once the service is no longer seen as cool, and the early adopters have - at a modest estimate - absolutely nothing at all to do with this.

msy 16y ago

Google Ratners jewellery

arepb 16y ago

@spolsky An example of a company that was hurt by the CEO being a dick? Um, I don't know, how about every single one? This is why most CEOs don't do customer service. Especially one that has eleventy billion users and a ton of money. People often confuse being curt like this with being effective. Often it's just some guy who had a bad day, is an insufferable asshole or some combo of the above. Customer service and 1 on 1 s with users should never be handled by people like that, though.