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Updates should not degrade the usability of a device. If a device is too slow to run new features then they should be disabled by default. Apple has an obvious

Updates should not degrade the usability of a device. If a device is too slow to run new features then they should be disabled by default. Apple has an obvious incentive to make people disatisfied with their older devices and want to buy the new one so it is fast again.

colejohnson66 7y ago
If they disable the feature, then they’re accused of planned obsolescence too. They can’t win against people like you.
- baroffoos 7y ago
  I said disabled by default. Make new but slow features an option. Most people would rather a working phone that isn't super slow over having the latest feature but if they still want it they can turn it on. Its total insanity that apple phones only last a few years before they are too slow.
  - arcticbull 7y ago
    Part of what makes iOS devices so usable and well-liked is they don't include a massive matrix of configuration options in the settings. Everyone gets a standard configuration, and it works well. If you create hundreds of features you have to test the cross product of all of them separately and together. That's not a realistic way of operating a business. As a user, how could you possibly know which of these settings was the straw that broke the camels back or the relative impact of each? Their decision to allow you to access all features as well as your battery can handle (and eventually the option to take the guard rails off, too) is IMO the simplest and cleanest way of solving this problem.
    - baroffoos 7y ago
      Apparently it doesn't work well if it takes users multiple seconds to open an app. I have heard many complaints about iphones becoming unusablely slow after a few updates which is unacceptable since much older phones were able to run much more responsively.
      - arcticbull 7y ago
        Until their batteries degraded and were no longer able to provide sufficient current to operate the device at peak performance. Batteries are consumables. It’s a combination of the never ending march of software bloat and the degraded performance characteristics of the years-old battery due to physics.
        baroffoos 7y ago
        >due to physics Due to Apples planned obsolescence making it an absolute nightmare to replace a consumable part because its lifespan lines up nicely with how often they would like you to buy a new device. Imo it is absolutely critical that a new law be introduced that batteries on consumer hardware must be user replaceable if we want to have any hope in protecting the planet. It would not be hard at all for phones to have user replaceable batteries. Most android phones did for a long time and most laptops just had switches on the bottom to eject the battery.
        arcticbull 7y ago
        Sure but it's fair to say that's a different problem. I'd be totally fine with that especially as part of a broader right-to-repair bill.
- Dylan16807 7y ago
  Current smartphones have sped up an unimaginable amount since the early models. There is no excuse for them to ever be unresponsive, even with the higher resolution screens. There's a difference between 'complexity' and 'bloat', and if they just had less bloat they would win against 'people like that'.

colejohnson66 7y ago

If they disable the feature, then they’re accused of planned obsolescence too. They can’t win against people like you.

baroffoos 7y ago
I said disabled by default. Make new but slow features an option. Most people would rather a working phone that isn't super slow over having the latest feature but if they still want it they can turn it on. Its total insanity that apple phones only last a few years before they are too slow.
- arcticbull 7y ago
  Part of what makes iOS devices so usable and well-liked is they don't include a massive matrix of configuration options in the settings. Everyone gets a standard configuration, and it works well. If you create hundreds of features you have to test the cross product of all of them separately and together. That's not a realistic way of operating a business. As a user, how could you possibly know which of these settings was the straw that broke the camels back or the relative impact of each? Their decision to allow you to access all features as well as your battery can handle (and eventually the option to take the guard rails off, too) is IMO the simplest and cleanest way of solving this problem.
  - baroffoos 7y ago
    Apparently it doesn't work well if it takes users multiple seconds to open an app. I have heard many complaints about iphones becoming unusablely slow after a few updates which is unacceptable since much older phones were able to run much more responsively.
    - arcticbull 7y ago
      Until their batteries degraded and were no longer able to provide sufficient current to operate the device at peak performance. Batteries are consumables. It’s a combination of the never ending march of software bloat and the degraded performance characteristics of the years-old battery due to physics.
      - baroffoos 7y ago
        >due to physics Due to Apples planned obsolescence making it an absolute nightmare to replace a consumable part because its lifespan lines up nicely with how often they would like you to buy a new device. Imo it is absolutely critical that a new law be introduced that batteries on consumer hardware must be user replaceable if we want to have any hope in protecting the planet. It would not be hard at all for phones to have user replaceable batteries. Most android phones did for a long time and most laptops just had switches on the bottom to eject the battery.
        arcticbull 7y ago
        Sure but it's fair to say that's a different problem. I'd be totally fine with that especially as part of a broader right-to-repair bill.
Dylan16807 7y ago
Current smartphones have sped up an unimaginable amount since the early models. There is no excuse for them to ever be unresponsive, even with the higher resolution screens. There's a difference between 'complexity' and 'bloat', and if they just had less bloat they would win against 'people like that'.