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>Meanwhile, T-Mobile plans include so much Canadian roaming that your plan is better than local Canadians’. Truth. I know a guy who works for NORAD and his (U

by na85 7y ago

>Meanwhile, T-Mobile plans include so much Canadian roaming that your plan is better than local Canadians’. Truth. I know a guy who works for NORAD and his (US-based) data plan is 60/month and includes unlimited data anywhere in Mexico, Canada, or the US. No roaming, no nothing. How the Canadian telcos haven't been prosecuted for price-fixing is beyond me.

bonestamp2 7y ago
Can confirm. I pay $45/line and my mom (in Canada) has been one of the lines on my account for about 5 years now. The only downside is that she has a US number, but she now has unlimited data/texts in over 150 countries and unlimited calling to/from Canada/US/Mexico.
- Scoundreller 7y ago
  You could set up a local access number for her on voip.ms that just forwards to her T-Mob number. Would cost a few dollars a month, but can’t receive SMS to it.
  - bonestamp2 7y ago
    That's a good idea. I'm not sure how much calling she does but I'll run it by her to see if she wants a local number. Thanks!
    - Scoundreller 7y ago
      Less for the calling she does, but moreso to handout to local companies that dread calling LD, or have to get a dialing PIN from someone else just to call one. E.g. retail shops, clinics, utilities, etc. Some local friends may be paying 20cpm to call her. I once had a small telecom refuse to accept my 1-800 number...
      - bonestamp2 7y ago
        Ya, I was more thinking about incoming calls. I know her friends just text her and she calls them, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the services she uses (like the ones you mentioned) can't even call her at all.
jacquesm 7y ago
> How the Canadian telcos haven't been prosecuted for price-fixing is beyond me. Because they - and the Canadian banks and a whole bunch of other entities - are monopolists with a wink. Their competitors only exist for them to be able to claim they are not a monopoly. There is also the LCBO, which is an outright state operated monopoly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquor_Control_Board_of_Ontario https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquor_Control_Board_of_Ontari... Canadians pay way too much for many services and goods compared to those South of the border because of these quasi monopolies and the associated lack of competition.
- tistoon 7y ago
  > Because they - and the Canadian banks and a whole bunch of other entities - are monopolists with a wink. Do you think that neo-bank Revolut will make it? I remembered ING direct managed to come to Canada a decade ago, but was brought back by Scotia Bank right after (now named Tangerine) - as you said - to façade competition.

by na85 7y ago

bonestamp2 7y ago

Can confirm. I pay $45/line and my mom (in Canada) has been one of the lines on my account for about 5 years now. The only downside is that she has a US number, but she now has unlimited data/texts in over 150 countries and unlimited calling to/from Canada/US/Mexico.

Scoundreller 7y ago
You could set up a local access number for her on voip.ms that just forwards to her T-Mob number. Would cost a few dollars a month, but can’t receive SMS to it.
- bonestamp2 7y ago
  That's a good idea. I'm not sure how much calling she does but I'll run it by her to see if she wants a local number. Thanks!
  - Scoundreller 7y ago
    Less for the calling she does, but moreso to handout to local companies that dread calling LD, or have to get a dialing PIN from someone else just to call one. E.g. retail shops, clinics, utilities, etc. Some local friends may be paying 20cpm to call her. I once had a small telecom refuse to accept my 1-800 number...
    - bonestamp2 7y ago
      Ya, I was more thinking about incoming calls. I know her friends just text her and she calls them, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the services she uses (like the ones you mentioned) can't even call her at all.

jacquesm 7y ago

> How the Canadian telcos haven't been prosecuted for price-fixing is beyond me. Because they - and the Canadian banks and a whole bunch of other entities - are monopolists with a wink. Their competitors only exist for them to be able to claim they are not a monopoly. There is also the LCBO, which is an outright state operated monopoly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquor_Control_Board_of_Ontario https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquor_Control_Board_of_Ontari... Canadians pay way too much for many services and goods compared to those South of the border because of these quasi monopolies and the associated lack of competition.

tistoon 7y ago
> Because they - and the Canadian banks and a whole bunch of other entities - are monopolists with a wink. Do you think that neo-bank Revolut will make it? I remembered ING direct managed to come to Canada a decade ago, but was brought back by Scotia Bank right after (now named Tangerine) - as you said - to façade competition.