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Why are we asking this question of the Saudis and not, say, the Chinese? Over the past few months there have been many issues of companies taking actions that
by dorkinspace 7y ago
Why are we asking this question of the Saudis and not, say, the Chinese?
Over the past few months there have been many issues of companies taking actions that seem to be based on appeasing the Chinese government.
Both are awful government's actively committing crimes against humanity.
- dorkinspace 7y agoI misspoke. I do not know of any crimes against humanity that the Saudis are actively committing.
- wigl 7y agoYemen is an easy example. [2] "As of October 2018, there have been more than 1.2 million cases reported, and more than 2,500 people—58% children—have died in the Yemen cholera outbreak, which is the worst epidemic in recorded history and was, according to the United Nations (UN), the worst humanitarian crisis in the world." These numbers are also very conservative estimates, given the state of siege. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian-led_intervention_in_Yemen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian-led_intervention... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80%9319_Yemen_cholera_outbreak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80%9319_Yemen_cholera_...
- dorkinspace 7y agoWow. Thanks for sharing these links.
- hummel 7y agoChina is also another easy sample with Concentration Camps for Uighurs, Tibet ..etc. [1]https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/analysis/world-is-silent-about-chinas-prison-camps-917659.html https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/analysis/wo... [2]https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/26/uighur-concentration-camps-surveillance-spies-china-control/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/26/uighur-concentration-ca... [3]https://www.businessinsider.com/muslim-woman-describes-horrors-of-chinese-concentration-camp-2019-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/muslim-woman-describes-horro... [4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps
- TheCoelacanth 7y agoThen you should get out more. Executing people for apostasy, blasphemy or witchcraft, torture, denying more or less all rights to women, turning a blind eye to extensive human trafficking, attempting genocide of Shia (not claiming they are conducting something like the Holocaust, this word covers a variety of actions). The list goes on and on.
- selimthegrim 7y agoActually the mandatory death penalty for blasphemy award goes to PK. Gotta out Saudi the Saudis when you’re on the dole
- thephyber 7y ago> and not, say, the Chinese? Are you under the impression that the USA isn't already asking that question about the Chinese? Examples: - Chinese "investors" getting access to Silicon Valley startups for "due diligence" before a theoretical investment - Forced IP transfer - Chinese-made networking equipment, drones, etc being banned - More scrutiny of Chinese university students These might just be leverage in the current trade war, but I would argue they are multi-pronged flashpoints in a multi-front "war" between the previous superpower and a vying potential superpower.
- notsag-hn 7y agoWhat about the crimes against humanity commited by the US then? Should we ban US money as well? :D
- deogeo 7y agoWhile the parent poster presented the issue as one of morality, it's more honest to frame it as self-preservation. It's rarely wise to allow another country too much influence over you - even rarer when it's as openly hostile to the US as China. Any wrongs you may have done don't enter into consideration when trying to prevent being wronged by others.
- imtringued 7y agoI'm thinking the same thing. China and Saudi Arabia might be awful but our own hands aren't clean either.
- tracker1 7y agoI don't live in Saudi Arabia, or China, or Russia... I live in the USA. Not that I dismiss what the US has done, I'd say the scope and scale aren't quite the same a lot of the time. In this case it's about preserving values from undue foreign influence. Preserving values from undue domestic influence is a bit easier inside the USA.