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It appears that someone who wore a pro-Trump MAGA hat to a software conference is being punished for violating an event Code of Conduct. Unless there is a gener

It appears that someone who wore a pro-Trump MAGA hat to a software conference is being punished for violating an event Code of Conduct. Unless there is a general ban on hats and clothing with political statements at software events, this is clearly discriminatory. "The Linux Foundation received a public tweet sent to the @KubeCon twitter address. That tweet recommended that Kube Con discontinue their association with Charles Max Wood. The reasons given in this complaint were his request for an open and civil phone call, and a picture of Mr. Wood wearing a MAGA hat. The Linux Foundation publicly replied from the @linuxfoundation twitter account as follows: Hi all, We have reviewed social and videos and determined that the Event Code of Conduct was violated and his registration to the event has been revoked. Our events should and will be a safe space."

fenwick67 7y ago
> It appears that someone were a pro-Trump MAGA hat to a software conference is being punished for violating an event Code of Conduct. Unless there is a general ban on hats and clothing with political statements at software events, this is clearly discriminatory. You don't know (and this letter's author doesn't know) that wearing a MAGA hat was what they considered a violation of the code of conduct.
- tux1968 7y ago
  In fairness, the letter's author seems more concerned about how the complaint was handled in public regardless of what it was about.
- matheusmoreira 7y ago
  > The reasons given in this complaint were his request for an open and civil phone call, and a picture of Mr. Wood wearing a MAGA hat. It is the only possible conclusion given this information. Is there more?
  - fenwick67 7y ago
    This is what they said: > We have reviewed social and videos and determined that the Event Code of Conduct was violated It could have been "he wore the wrong hat" but it also could have been "we looked and he was harassing people on Twitter".
- umvi 7y ago
  The whole exchange was public. LF might not have banned Mr. Wood for wearing a MAGA hat (the true reason they banned him was probably to avoid a confrontation with Code of Conduct zealots), but it sure looks like it based on the public tweet exchange.
- dave_b 7y ago
  Literally the only evidence presented was a polite call for discussion, and a picture of the guy wearing a MAGA hat. Then the org directly responded, saying they reviewed the evidence and found he violated the code of conduct. Regardless of what they may claim or of how much anyone may try to dissemble, the MAGA hat picture was clearly the impetus for the decision.
bartmcpherson 7y ago
That's what Uncle Bob is insinuating, but is that what really happened? I can't even see the tweet he's talking about. He mentions an @KubeCon twitter account. That account is not associated w/ the event.
- aaronchall 7y ago
  I think he's talking about this tweet: https://twitter.com/nebrius/status/1191821800302206976 https://twitter.com/nebrius/status/1191821800302206976
- papreclip 7y ago
  https://twitter.com/KimCrayton1/status/1191697390799130624 https://twitter.com/KimCrayton1/status/1191697390799130624 is the tweet that got him 86ed from the convention. In addition to the hat photo, there's also a 30 minute video where he talks about diversity, twitter, etc > general ban on hats and clothing with political statements In some schools of thought, a MAGA hat is a hate symbol like a swastika armband. They view it differently than they would a Republican National Convention hat. Whether they're right or wrong, these are the people writing and enforcing codes of conduct these days
  - zozbot234 7y ago
    > In some schools of thought, a MAGA hat is a hate symbol like a swastika armband. Excuse me, but what could ever be hateful about making America great again? Doesn't this rather suggest that these schools of thought themselves are being quite hateful towards America? It's sure convenient that "these are the people writing and enforcing codes of conduct these days", because if they weren't, the case for banning them as CoC violators would be pretty clearcut.
    - krapp 7y ago
      >Excuse me, but what could ever be hateful about making America great again? The belief that what has weakened America is multiculturalism, immigration, feminism and racial diversity, and that what is needed to make America great again is reversing the aforementioned trends, and restoring to heterosexual, Christian white males their former status of cultural and political hegemony.
api 7y ago
I've observed that there is often more to the story in these sorts of cases. Not always, but >50% of the time. The little thing everyone is reacting to is usually the last straw. The same often holds true with outbreaks of political protest, like the ones in Chile right now. The mainstream story is that the protests are over a subway fare hike, but the reality is that this was just the lightning rod event.
nairboon 7y ago
> It appears that someone who wore a pro-Trump MAGA hat to a software conference is being punished for violating an event Code of Conduct. Check the date on the picture... It appears that someone who wore a pro-Trump MAGA hat in 2016. And is thus banned from a conference in 2019.
- xrd 7y ago
  Are you saying there is evidence to suggest this was the reason they revoked his conference pass? I believe that this was just a part of his character that has come out since then.

fenwick67 7y ago

> It appears that someone were a pro-Trump MAGA hat to a software conference is being punished for violating an event Code of Conduct. Unless there is a general ban on hats and clothing with political statements at software events, this is clearly discriminatory. You don't know (and this letter's author doesn't know) that wearing a MAGA hat was what they considered a violation of the code of conduct.

tux1968 7y ago
In fairness, the letter's author seems more concerned about how the complaint was handled in public regardless of what it was about.
matheusmoreira 7y ago
> The reasons given in this complaint were his request for an open and civil phone call, and a picture of Mr. Wood wearing a MAGA hat. It is the only possible conclusion given this information. Is there more?
- fenwick67 7y ago
  This is what they said: > We have reviewed social and videos and determined that the Event Code of Conduct was violated It could have been "he wore the wrong hat" but it also could have been "we looked and he was harassing people on Twitter".
umvi 7y ago
The whole exchange was public. LF might not have banned Mr. Wood for wearing a MAGA hat (the true reason they banned him was probably to avoid a confrontation with Code of Conduct zealots), but it sure looks like it based on the public tweet exchange.
dave_b 7y ago
Literally the only evidence presented was a polite call for discussion, and a picture of the guy wearing a MAGA hat. Then the org directly responded, saying they reviewed the evidence and found he violated the code of conduct. Regardless of what they may claim or of how much anyone may try to dissemble, the MAGA hat picture was clearly the impetus for the decision.

bartmcpherson 7y ago

That's what Uncle Bob is insinuating, but is that what really happened? I can't even see the tweet he's talking about. He mentions an @KubeCon twitter account. That account is not associated w/ the event.

aaronchall 7y ago
I think he's talking about this tweet: https://twitter.com/nebrius/status/1191821800302206976 https://twitter.com/nebrius/status/1191821800302206976
papreclip 7y ago
https://twitter.com/KimCrayton1/status/1191697390799130624 https://twitter.com/KimCrayton1/status/1191697390799130624 is the tweet that got him 86ed from the convention. In addition to the hat photo, there's also a 30 minute video where he talks about diversity, twitter, etc > general ban on hats and clothing with political statements In some schools of thought, a MAGA hat is a hate symbol like a swastika armband. They view it differently than they would a Republican National Convention hat. Whether they're right or wrong, these are the people writing and enforcing codes of conduct these days
- zozbot234 7y ago
  > In some schools of thought, a MAGA hat is a hate symbol like a swastika armband. Excuse me, but what could ever be hateful about making America great again? Doesn't this rather suggest that these schools of thought themselves are being quite hateful towards America? It's sure convenient that "these are the people writing and enforcing codes of conduct these days", because if they weren't, the case for banning them as CoC violators would be pretty clearcut.
  - krapp 7y ago
    >Excuse me, but what could ever be hateful about making America great again? The belief that what has weakened America is multiculturalism, immigration, feminism and racial diversity, and that what is needed to make America great again is reversing the aforementioned trends, and restoring to heterosexual, Christian white males their former status of cultural and political hegemony.

api 7y ago

I've observed that there is often more to the story in these sorts of cases. Not always, but >50% of the time. The little thing everyone is reacting to is usually the last straw. The same often holds true with outbreaks of political protest, like the ones in Chile right now. The mainstream story is that the protests are over a subway fare hike, but the reality is that this was just the lightning rod event.

nairboon 7y ago

> It appears that someone who wore a pro-Trump MAGA hat to a software conference is being punished for violating an event Code of Conduct. Check the date on the picture... It appears that someone who wore a pro-Trump MAGA hat in 2016. And is thus banned from a conference in 2019.

xrd 7y ago
Are you saying there is evidence to suggest this was the reason they revoked his conference pass? I believe that this was just a part of his character that has come out since then.