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In a few years time, I expect we'll see a significant increase in the crime statistics in Flint. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93crime_hypothesis ht

In a few years time, I expect we'll see a significant increase in the crime statistics in Flint. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93crime_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93crime_hypothesis

ysdjk 7y ago
Lower intelligence leads to more crime. That is fine until you realise which race has the lower average IQ.
derek1800 7y ago
You do realize flint is one of the worst cities in all US for crime. I am not sure it is possible to get worse from where it is now.
- sokoloff 7y ago
  Why wouldn’t it be possible to get worse? The murder rate of 19 per 50K is still fairly low in overall terms and could dramatically increase without triggering any “natural limit”. Combine that with the adverse selection of population, it could get quite a bit more dire. If you had significant resources and flexibility, you’ve probably already moved your family out of Flint. As things get worse, people with “any” rather than “significant” resources/flexibility will move out. As you remove swaths of population who (for whatever reason) tend to commit less violent crime, your remaining violent crime rate gets worse.
  - derek1800 7y ago
    It can technically And definitely get worse but if you are using that statistic only you wouldn’t understand the totality of how bad it is in Flint. You really have to see it to understand how bad it is. My point is you cannot make it seem like all of sudden flint is going to become high crime rate going forward due to this.
    - ur725 7y ago
      That was not at all their point or what they were getting at. Things can always get worse, and this single statistic can be the tipping point to make it worse. I say this as someone who LIVES in the area. Betting you do not.
  - derek1800 7y ago
    What you described in the second paragraph was happening well before the water crisis. Which is why Flint is in the shape it is. How much the water crisis increased or contributed to this would be interesting to know vs people who did it before.
bluedino 7y ago
The crime rate in Flint is actually much, much lower than it was in the early 1990's. Especially the amount of murders. However, much of the crime isn't reported any more, or acted on. Flint has a ratio of almost 1 police officer per 1,000 residents, with is a quarter of a city like nearby Detroit. Without cops to record the crime, much less act upon it, the numbers are artificially deflated. Someone could break into your home and since the cops don't come by for 6 hours t oinvestigate it just gets forgotten about.
matheusmoreira 7y ago
One of the references cited: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2689675/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2689675/ > Childhood lead exposure is associated with region-specific reductions in adult gray matter volume. > Affected regions include the portions of the prefrontal cortex and ACC responsible for executive functions, mood regulation, and decision-making. > These neuroanatomical findings were more pronounced for males, suggesting that lead-related atrophic changes have a disparate impact across sexes.

ysdjk 7y ago

Lower intelligence leads to more crime. That is fine until you realise which race has the lower average IQ.

derek1800 7y ago

You do realize flint is one of the worst cities in all US for crime. I am not sure it is possible to get worse from where it is now.

sokoloff 7y ago
Why wouldn’t it be possible to get worse? The murder rate of 19 per 50K is still fairly low in overall terms and could dramatically increase without triggering any “natural limit”. Combine that with the adverse selection of population, it could get quite a bit more dire. If you had significant resources and flexibility, you’ve probably already moved your family out of Flint. As things get worse, people with “any” rather than “significant” resources/flexibility will move out. As you remove swaths of population who (for whatever reason) tend to commit less violent crime, your remaining violent crime rate gets worse.
- derek1800 7y ago
  It can technically And definitely get worse but if you are using that statistic only you wouldn’t understand the totality of how bad it is in Flint. You really have to see it to understand how bad it is. My point is you cannot make it seem like all of sudden flint is going to become high crime rate going forward due to this.
  - ur725 7y ago
    That was not at all their point or what they were getting at. Things can always get worse, and this single statistic can be the tipping point to make it worse. I say this as someone who LIVES in the area. Betting you do not.
- derek1800 7y ago
  What you described in the second paragraph was happening well before the water crisis. Which is why Flint is in the shape it is. How much the water crisis increased or contributed to this would be interesting to know vs people who did it before.

bluedino 7y ago

The crime rate in Flint is actually much, much lower than it was in the early 1990's. Especially the amount of murders. However, much of the crime isn't reported any more, or acted on. Flint has a ratio of almost 1 police officer per 1,000 residents, with is a quarter of a city like nearby Detroit. Without cops to record the crime, much less act upon it, the numbers are artificially deflated. Someone could break into your home and since the cops don't come by for 6 hours t oinvestigate it just gets forgotten about.

matheusmoreira 7y ago

One of the references cited: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2689675/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2689675/ > Childhood lead exposure is associated with region-specific reductions in adult gray matter volume. > Affected regions include the portions of the prefrontal cortex and ACC responsible for executive functions, mood regulation, and decision-making. > These neuroanatomical findings were more pronounced for males, suggesting that lead-related atrophic changes have a disparate impact across sexes.