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And if anyone from AMD is reading this. I'm truelly awaiting AMD's NUC in multiple price ranges of 150-700€, if possible :)! I'm currently building a DIY RPi 4

And if anyone from AMD is reading this. I'm truelly awaiting AMD's NUC in multiple price ranges of 150-700€, if possible :)! I'm currently building a DIY RPi 4 cluster for microservices/kubernetes setup and would like to replace my DIY home streaming setup. http://www.fanlesstech.com/2019/10/exclusive-amds-nuc-is-coming-soon.html http://www.fanlesstech.com/2019/10/exclusive-amds-nuc-is-com...

axaxs 7y ago
Same. In an effort to minimalize, my work PC is a monitor with a NUC sitting under it. No bulky case, wires everywhere, etc. I've been trying for two years to find an AMD equivalent to no avail.
- rhizome 7y ago
  You can get a VESA mount Mini-ITX[1] case with a current-chipset (X570, etc.) motherboard, as well as all the other Mini-ITX options like monitor-mount base cases[2]. 1. https://www.amazon.com/Antec-ISK110-VESA-U3-Mini-ITX-Compatible/dp/B0095P21ZS https://www.amazon.com/Antec-ISK110-VESA-U3-Mini-ITX-Compati... 2. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQQB9wocMh_PQ9nZ-oheRSqmUYDXySMYLvuX6du7iQEYVl5CYPO https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQQB9...
  - axaxs 7y ago
    Thanks for the links. This is significantly larger than a NUC, but still manageable. That said, part of what I appreciate about the NUC is that it's all built together...no weird hardware/compat issues, etc.
    - rhizome 7y ago
      The weird hw/compat issues tend to be OS-related in my experience. I checked a few of these boards and the integrated graphics tended to be Radeon, but I think it'd really only matter under Linux.
    - undersuit 7y ago
      >That said, part of what I appreciate about the NUC is that it's all built together...no weird hardware/compat issues, etc. ? Has something changed in the laptop world because you're describing issues frequently heard with Laptops and their screenless cousins, NUCs.
    - NicoJuicy 7y ago
      Frequently bought together section on Amazon is probably exactly what you wanted ^^
  - rpeden 7y ago
    Neat! You can VESA mount NUCs, too: https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/en/support/articles/000006857/mini-pcs/intel-nuc-kits.html https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/en/support/articles/0000...
chaosbutters314 7y ago
Can I ask for anyone from AMD to sell a 4 socket, epyc mobo. Im looking for 256 (4*64) core desktop PC.
- NicoJuicy 7y ago
  Offtopic: I was looking for a decent AMD replacement for a Intel NUC and didn't found it then, wanted to suggest a new niche in the previous comment ( looked for it a month or so ago). I only found out after my comment it was coming and didn't want to remove my comment ;). As i'm truelly interested in a AMD replacement for my current slow ( and cheap ) Intel NUC :) And euh, looking at the top comments. I'm not alone, sarcasms aside Ontopic: If you order enough of them. They can address a custom team for you! You could earn money like hell launching this on the market! https://www.amd.com/en/products/semi-custom-solutions https://www.amd.com/en/products/semi-custom-solutions Build your dream!
- mattmar96 7y ago
  What will you use that many cores for?
  - robotmay 7y ago
    Running the Slack client?
    - dijit 7y ago
      Slack client is single-threaded. However, 'chrome' would be valid. :)
      - robotmay 7y ago
        Haha I must admit I have run Slack inside Firefox for the past 3 years myself.
  - Darkphibre 7y ago
    In Photogrammetry, at least, some programs have codepaths that run concurrently: part heavily parallized for CPU, and part heavily parallized for GPU. I built a monster system with dual 1080s when they first came out, and my i7 became the bottleneck. There's algorithms that haven't yet been optimized for GPU parallelization. And there's datasets that require memory access patterns that aren't amenable to GPU. That said, now I'm curious what a 128-core system would do to memory access. Better hope the algorithms are L2/L3 coherent?
vkaku 7y ago
And if you're reading this, I'm waiting for a very decent mATX PCIe4 board for EPYC, please make it happen!
- vxxzy 7y ago
  Checkout EPYC 3251. Getting ready to do a home buildout with kvm vms.
- unholythree 7y ago
  I don't think we'll see socket SP3 Epyc on mATX for a few reasons. The chip itself is huge and you'd have to throw away a lot of PCIe lanes and DIMM slots that couldn't fit on the motherboard. Supermicro's ATX boards already halve the the number of DIMMs of their proprietary form factors or Gigabyte's eATX boards hold. *Edited to clarify I meant socket SP3 boards rather than embedded.
LinuxBender 7y ago
And please have at least two server quality 1gb nics. :-) My home router needs an upgrade.
- jagger27 7y ago
  Even Mac minis come with a 10gig NIC. Gotta future proof, right?
  - loeg 7y ago
    10G stuff still carries a substantial price premium, unfortunately. And if you've got existing Cat 5/5e cable (esp. in the wall), now you've got to replace the cable, even for short runs. I don't find 1Gbps hugely limiting myself at this time, or at least, not enough to push me to the extra spend on 2.5-5 or 10Gbit hardware. (Also, we've got 5e in the walls, no conduit, and that stuff is never getting replaced.)
    - Unklejoe 7y ago
      > Cat 5/5e cable (esp. in the wall), now you've got to replace the cable, even for short runs. Not always. I have a working 10GBASE-T link over about 50 feet of Cat 5e, going through two couplers too. No frame loss. Probably depends a lot on the quality of the cabling and the noise environment.
      - snvzz 7y ago
        And then there's NBASE-T, which takes care of situations where the cabling isn't up to scratch, scaling bandwidth accordingly.
- profquail 7y ago
  Maybe they could include NBASE-T nics that’d also support 2.5 and 5 Gbps speeds?
  - LinuxBender 7y ago
rhn_mk1 7y ago
I've been waiting for that as well, and while the hyped models from usual cheap brands are unobtanium, HP and Lenovo have quietly kickstarted the sector with Lenovo m715q Tiny, HP ProDesk 405 G4 and HP EliteDesk 705 G4. The prices could be better however.
mcdevilkiller 7y ago
Yes, please! And if possible, a lower frequency, higher thread count processor version plus a low core count, high frequency processor one.

axaxs 7y ago

Same. In an effort to minimalize, my work PC is a monitor with a NUC sitting under it. No bulky case, wires everywhere, etc. I've been trying for two years to find an AMD equivalent to no avail.

rhizome 7y ago
You can get a VESA mount Mini-ITX[1] case with a current-chipset (X570, etc.) motherboard, as well as all the other Mini-ITX options like monitor-mount base cases[2]. 1. https://www.amazon.com/Antec-ISK110-VESA-U3-Mini-ITX-Compatible/dp/B0095P21ZS https://www.amazon.com/Antec-ISK110-VESA-U3-Mini-ITX-Compati... 2. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQQB9wocMh_PQ9nZ-oheRSqmUYDXySMYLvuX6du7iQEYVl5CYPO https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQQB9...
- axaxs 7y ago
  Thanks for the links. This is significantly larger than a NUC, but still manageable. That said, part of what I appreciate about the NUC is that it's all built together...no weird hardware/compat issues, etc.
  - rhizome 7y ago
    The weird hw/compat issues tend to be OS-related in my experience. I checked a few of these boards and the integrated graphics tended to be Radeon, but I think it'd really only matter under Linux.
  - undersuit 7y ago
    >That said, part of what I appreciate about the NUC is that it's all built together...no weird hardware/compat issues, etc. ? Has something changed in the laptop world because you're describing issues frequently heard with Laptops and their screenless cousins, NUCs.
  - NicoJuicy 7y ago
    Frequently bought together section on Amazon is probably exactly what you wanted ^^
- rpeden 7y ago
  Neat! You can VESA mount NUCs, too: https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/en/support/articles/000006857/mini-pcs/intel-nuc-kits.html https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/en/support/articles/0000...

chaosbutters314 7y ago

Can I ask for anyone from AMD to sell a 4 socket, epyc mobo. Im looking for 256 (4*64) core desktop PC.

NicoJuicy 7y ago
Offtopic: I was looking for a decent AMD replacement for a Intel NUC and didn't found it then, wanted to suggest a new niche in the previous comment ( looked for it a month or so ago). I only found out after my comment it was coming and didn't want to remove my comment ;). As i'm truelly interested in a AMD replacement for my current slow ( and cheap ) Intel NUC :) And euh, looking at the top comments. I'm not alone, sarcasms aside Ontopic: If you order enough of them. They can address a custom team for you! You could earn money like hell launching this on the market! https://www.amd.com/en/products/semi-custom-solutions https://www.amd.com/en/products/semi-custom-solutions Build your dream!
mattmar96 7y ago
What will you use that many cores for?
- robotmay 7y ago
  Running the Slack client?
  - dijit 7y ago
    Slack client is single-threaded. However, 'chrome' would be valid. :)
    - robotmay 7y ago
      Haha I must admit I have run Slack inside Firefox for the past 3 years myself.
- Darkphibre 7y ago
  In Photogrammetry, at least, some programs have codepaths that run concurrently: part heavily parallized for CPU, and part heavily parallized for GPU. I built a monster system with dual 1080s when they first came out, and my i7 became the bottleneck. There's algorithms that haven't yet been optimized for GPU parallelization. And there's datasets that require memory access patterns that aren't amenable to GPU. That said, now I'm curious what a 128-core system would do to memory access. Better hope the algorithms are L2/L3 coherent?

vkaku 7y ago

And if you're reading this, I'm waiting for a very decent mATX PCIe4 board for EPYC, please make it happen!

vxxzy 7y ago
Checkout EPYC 3251. Getting ready to do a home buildout with kvm vms.
unholythree 7y ago
I don't think we'll see socket SP3 Epyc on mATX for a few reasons. The chip itself is huge and you'd have to throw away a lot of PCIe lanes and DIMM slots that couldn't fit on the motherboard. Supermicro's ATX boards already halve the the number of DIMMs of their proprietary form factors or Gigabyte's eATX boards hold. *Edited to clarify I meant socket SP3 boards rather than embedded.

LinuxBender 7y ago

And please have at least two server quality 1gb nics. :-) My home router needs an upgrade.

jagger27 7y ago
Even Mac minis come with a 10gig NIC. Gotta future proof, right?
- loeg 7y ago
  10G stuff still carries a substantial price premium, unfortunately. And if you've got existing Cat 5/5e cable (esp. in the wall), now you've got to replace the cable, even for short runs. I don't find 1Gbps hugely limiting myself at this time, or at least, not enough to push me to the extra spend on 2.5-5 or 10Gbit hardware. (Also, we've got 5e in the walls, no conduit, and that stuff is never getting replaced.)
  - Unklejoe 7y ago
    > Cat 5/5e cable (esp. in the wall), now you've got to replace the cable, even for short runs. Not always. I have a working 10GBASE-T link over about 50 feet of Cat 5e, going through two couplers too. No frame loss. Probably depends a lot on the quality of the cabling and the noise environment.
    - snvzz 7y ago
      And then there's NBASE-T, which takes care of situations where the cabling isn't up to scratch, scaling bandwidth accordingly.
profquail 7y ago
Maybe they could include NBASE-T nics that’d also support 2.5 and 5 Gbps speeds?
- LinuxBender 7y ago

rhn_mk1 7y ago

I've been waiting for that as well, and while the hyped models from usual cheap brands are unobtanium, HP and Lenovo have quietly kickstarted the sector with Lenovo m715q Tiny, HP ProDesk 405 G4 and HP EliteDesk 705 G4. The prices could be better however.

mcdevilkiller 7y ago

Yes, please! And if possible, a lower frequency, higher thread count processor version plus a low core count, high frequency processor one.