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> French GPs earn ~25$ (base price) per patient My GP sees ~10 people per hour, ~7 hours a day. That sounds like it would be worth 1750 per day. Assume 250

> French GPs earn ~25$ (base price) per patient My GP sees ~10 people per hour, ~7 hours a day. That sounds like it would be worth 1750 per day. Assume 250 day working year for the ease of my mental maths, you've got ~450k revenue? Assuming tests/drugs etc are all extra, and that the surgery takes a sizable chunk - it still feels a decent distance from the breadline?

rscho 7y ago
Yes and no. You are forgetting unpaid (compulsory) on-call work and the necessity to pay administrative staff if you want to work full-time (the amount of papers is such that you can't do without). So far from the breadline on objective criteria, yes. Far enough that people wouldn't do anything to work in another specialty or do something where you have a better lifestyle, no. So GPs are usually not doing that by choice.
343254356 7y ago
My GPs in France would see me for at least 30 minute each time, taking great care to check everything. It was quite a shock when I arrived in the UK and my GP would show me the door after 10 minutes. The downside is that the French GP will never take you on time for your appointment, but you will feel that you are taken care of, unlike in the UK system. I came once just for a quick health check before start a new sport, and I got an electro-cardiogram (to check for heart murmur, for free obviously), simply because I never had one in my life. They will often ask if your vaccinations are in order, how do you feel, things like that.
- rscho 7y ago
  In a word, French GPs do their job.
baud147258 7y ago
I don't know how your GP work, but last time I went to see one it was closer to 2 or 3 patient per hour.
- krageon 7y ago
  My GP takes 10 minutes per appointment and they sometimes take about 5 minutes after to enter information. Seeing 4-5 people per hour enter their office is a normal day. Edit: To be clear, this will afford them a salary that is a multiple of mine while still leaving room for about 3 assistants per GP (maybe more, given that assistant work is something that your insurance or you also end up paying for), rent for the office and equipment. They're certainly not underpaid. I don't think they are overpaid either, as the time taken to study before you can become one is very long and the work is probably quite unpleasant.
  - baud147258 7y ago
    I was more wondering about the quality of care.

rscho 7y ago

Yes and no. You are forgetting unpaid (compulsory) on-call work and the necessity to pay administrative staff if you want to work full-time (the amount of papers is such that you can't do without). So far from the breadline on objective criteria, yes. Far enough that people wouldn't do anything to work in another specialty or do something where you have a better lifestyle, no. So GPs are usually not doing that by choice.

343254356 7y ago

My GPs in France would see me for at least 30 minute each time, taking great care to check everything. It was quite a shock when I arrived in the UK and my GP would show me the door after 10 minutes. The downside is that the French GP will never take you on time for your appointment, but you will feel that you are taken care of, unlike in the UK system. I came once just for a quick health check before start a new sport, and I got an electro-cardiogram (to check for heart murmur, for free obviously), simply because I never had one in my life. They will often ask if your vaccinations are in order, how do you feel, things like that.

rscho 7y ago
In a word, French GPs do their job.

baud147258 7y ago

I don't know how your GP work, but last time I went to see one it was closer to 2 or 3 patient per hour.

krageon 7y ago
My GP takes 10 minutes per appointment and they sometimes take about 5 minutes after to enter information. Seeing 4-5 people per hour enter their office is a normal day. Edit: To be clear, this will afford them a salary that is a multiple of mine while still leaving room for about 3 assistants per GP (maybe more, given that assistant work is something that your insurance or you also end up paying for), rent for the office and equipment. They're certainly not underpaid. I don't think they are overpaid either, as the time taken to study before you can become one is very long and the work is probably quite unpleasant.
- baud147258 7y ago
  I was more wondering about the quality of care.