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Did you mean shockingly inexpensive? UNC Chapel Hill (what I assume you mean by North Carolina) costs students from the state $8,834 USD. Out-of-state tuition

Did you mean shockingly inexpensive? UNC Chapel Hill (what I assume you mean by North Carolina) costs students from the state $8,834 USD. Out-of-state tuition is $33,916. I would not call either number "shockingly expensive." Michigan is $14,402 and $45,410. UVA is similar. Quite a bit more but still not anything shocking. Minnesota is similar but out-of-state tuition is just $23k.

jazzyk 7y ago
Add ~$15K for room and board, though.
AnimalMuppet 7y ago
In what world is $34K/year not "shockingly expensive"? [Edited to add: Some people have more than one child. Some of them have more than one child in college at the same time.]
- kissickas 7y ago
  I agree it's high, but these are all state schools. You're picking the out-of-state tuition number that's not supposed to be subsidized by local taxes. It's far easier to raise tuition on out-of-state kids so that has happened in recent years as well. I still don't consider it shockingly expensive - it's been the top value public university in the country for 18 years in a row. https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article233110061.html https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article233110061.htm...
Aeolun 7y ago
Just $23k/year. Thank god I’m not living there. It’s actually been normalized... No wonder university is a privilege of the wealthy.
- trophycase 7y ago
  70% of high school graduates enroll in some college. It's not exactly a privilege of the wealthy.
ilikehurdles 7y ago
It's only not shocking because we've normalized the absurd in this country. In what world can someone earning around median US yearly income (about $32k) pay $8,834 a year in tuition + housing costs + normal costs of daily life? Now account for the reality where being successful at both a full-time job and in a full-time student role is effectively impossible, where that $32k/year disappears. Let's assume that the average high school graduate is an outlier, some financial wizard or an uneducated but driven high-earner with the wisdom and ability to save an entire years' base income for a college fund before they're out the high school's door, giving them just around enough to pay for four years of tuition at a cheaper public university. So let's assume they have some kind of neat free housing deal where they work the dorm cafeteria and get their meals free as well. They would then also have to be one of the 33% of undergrads who actually complete a degree in 4 years in public universities to wrap this miracle up without debt. This person doesn't exist. And yet, achieving a debt-free college education at a reasonable age has been possible in previous decades and continues to be possible in other nations.

jazzyk 7y ago

Add ~$15K for room and board, though.

AnimalMuppet 7y ago

In what world is $34K/year not "shockingly expensive"? [Edited to add: Some people have more than one child. Some of them have more than one child in college at the same time.]

kissickas 7y ago
I agree it's high, but these are all state schools. You're picking the out-of-state tuition number that's not supposed to be subsidized by local taxes. It's far easier to raise tuition on out-of-state kids so that has happened in recent years as well. I still don't consider it shockingly expensive - it's been the top value public university in the country for 18 years in a row. https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article233110061.html https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article233110061.htm...

Aeolun 7y ago

Just $23k/year. Thank god I’m not living there. It’s actually been normalized... No wonder university is a privilege of the wealthy.

trophycase 7y ago
70% of high school graduates enroll in some college. It's not exactly a privilege of the wealthy.

ilikehurdles 7y ago

It's only not shocking because we've normalized the absurd in this country. In what world can someone earning around median US yearly income (about $32k) pay $8,834 a year in tuition + housing costs + normal costs of daily life? Now account for the reality where being successful at both a full-time job and in a full-time student role is effectively impossible, where that $32k/year disappears. Let's assume that the average high school graduate is an outlier, some financial wizard or an uneducated but driven high-earner with the wisdom and ability to save an entire years' base income for a college fund before they're out the high school's door, giving them just around enough to pay for four years of tuition at a cheaper public university. So let's assume they have some kind of neat free housing deal where they work the dorm cafeteria and get their meals free as well. They would then also have to be one of the 33% of undergrads who actually complete a degree in 4 years in public universities to wrap this miracle up without debt. This person doesn't exist. And yet, achieving a debt-free college education at a reasonable age has been possible in previous decades and continues to be possible in other nations.