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When Porsche labels a battery operated car as 'Turbo', I think it's time for them to to die.

by noipv4 7y ago

notfromhere 7y ago
You can argue the same concept about Tesla and its constantly lying about autonomous driving.
- sschueller 7y ago
  At least the Turbo Porsche is actually faster than the base just not using an actual turbo forcing air into the engine. My old PC had a Turbo button and it also did not have forced air induction.
  - hcarvalhoalves 7y ago
    > My old PC had a Turbo button and it also did not have forced air induction. You just gave me a hilarious idea for a PC mod.
giiguughh 7y ago
What about intel?
yohannparis 7y ago
It's been a least a decade that Porsche label car as "Turbo" as a product line and not based on the feature. The term "Turbo" is just a legacy term in its product line.
modulos 7y ago
ASUS makes 'Turbo' graphics cards. Vitamix and Robot Coupe both make 'Turbo' blenders. Intel offers 'Turbo Boost' CPUs. Miele makes a 'Turbo' vacuum cleaners. Intuit makes a 'Turbo' tax preparation product. Porsche buyers know that 'Turbo' means 'it's the fast, non-track variant', and normal people also know it means 'this one is fast'. A few nerdy pedants will get upset, but literally nobody cares about them. They weren't going to buy one anyway.
- nomel 7y ago
  > Porsche buyers know that 'Turbo' means As a car guy, I strongly disagree. In the car world, nearly without exception, including all previously Porches, "Turbo" is a label indicating that a specific piece of hardware is installed on the ICE: a turbocharger. This is like putting a "manual" or "automatic" label on an electric. Sure, you could probably consider an electric a manual 1 speed or automatic 1 speed, but it's not going to get anything but marketing BS eye rolls from anyone that knows about cars.
  - detaro 7y ago
    It feels like more a branding term with ICE Porsche too ever since they've started putting turbochargers on the non-Turbo-branded versions too.
    - nomel 7y ago
      Fair enough, but you won't find a "Turbo" labelled ICE, Porsche or anything else, without an actual turbocharger.
  - noipv4 7y ago
    Exactly! As an owner of a Turbocharged ICE sports car (EVO X) I can say that turbocharger(s) in a car gives it some very specific characteristics (namely a specific torque curve to the engine) which differentiates it from a non-turbocharged vehicle. The turbocharger compresses the input charge and is driven by the exhaust gases. If companies start labelling non-turbocharged vehicles as Turbo, it's a complete mis-representation and a faux-pas in my opinion. Porsche has simply got it wrong here.
AndrewBissell 7y ago
Yeah Tesla is way ahead of the curve here, they've figured out that all car feature branding is supposed to be based on "Spaceballs" references.
- toomuchtodo 7y ago
  They're marketing to a younger crowd. Average age of a Porsche owner is 40. Go where the puck is going to be, not where it is. My elderly neighbor with his Porsche might not appreciate the reference, but mid 30s I enjoy it.
  - clouddrover 7y ago
    Spaceballs was released 32 years ago. Not such a young crowd anymore: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094012/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094012/ In any case, Volkswagen is going for Star Wars references with Porsche: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo95p9mdiWg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo95p9mdiWg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc-fWmWxx4Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc-fWmWxx4Q And Marvel references with Audi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmgwBKzHIuA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmgwBKzHIuA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hpNFDpRNlc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hpNFDpRNlc
    - toomuchtodo 7y ago
      I suppose young was the wrong word. Perhaps "fun" or "not stuffy" would've been better? Fart mode, theater mode, pop culture naming of options in the vehicle config > fit & finish. I don't have an exact name for it, but I can see the difference between my older neighbor and what he values in his Porsche vs what I value in my Model S.
      - clouddrover 7y ago
        Star Wars and Marvel movies are stuffy?
      - tmh88j 7y ago
kec 7y ago
And Tesla has announced a "roadster" with a hardtop roof and two rows of seats....

When Porsche labels a battery operated car as 'Turbo', I think it's time for them to to die.

by noipv4 7y ago

When Porsche labels a battery operated car as 'Turbo', I think it's time for them to to die.

notfromhere 7y ago

You can argue the same concept about Tesla and its constantly lying about autonomous driving.

sschueller 7y ago
At least the Turbo Porsche is actually faster than the base just not using an actual turbo forcing air into the engine. My old PC had a Turbo button and it also did not have forced air induction.
- hcarvalhoalves 7y ago
  > My old PC had a Turbo button and it also did not have forced air induction. You just gave me a hilarious idea for a PC mod.

giiguughh 7y ago

What about intel?

yohannparis 7y ago

It's been a least a decade that Porsche label car as "Turbo" as a product line and not based on the feature. The term "Turbo" is just a legacy term in its product line.

modulos 7y ago

ASUS makes 'Turbo' graphics cards. Vitamix and Robot Coupe both make 'Turbo' blenders. Intel offers 'Turbo Boost' CPUs. Miele makes a 'Turbo' vacuum cleaners. Intuit makes a 'Turbo' tax preparation product. Porsche buyers know that 'Turbo' means 'it's the fast, non-track variant', and normal people also know it means 'this one is fast'. A few nerdy pedants will get upset, but literally nobody cares about them. They weren't going to buy one anyway.

nomel 7y ago
> Porsche buyers know that 'Turbo' means As a car guy, I strongly disagree. In the car world, nearly without exception, including all previously Porches, "Turbo" is a label indicating that a specific piece of hardware is installed on the ICE: a turbocharger. This is like putting a "manual" or "automatic" label on an electric. Sure, you could probably consider an electric a manual 1 speed or automatic 1 speed, but it's not going to get anything but marketing BS eye rolls from anyone that knows about cars.
- detaro 7y ago
  It feels like more a branding term with ICE Porsche too ever since they've started putting turbochargers on the non-Turbo-branded versions too.
  - nomel 7y ago
    Fair enough, but you won't find a "Turbo" labelled ICE, Porsche or anything else, without an actual turbocharger.
- noipv4 7y ago
  Exactly! As an owner of a Turbocharged ICE sports car (EVO X) I can say that turbocharger(s) in a car gives it some very specific characteristics (namely a specific torque curve to the engine) which differentiates it from a non-turbocharged vehicle. The turbocharger compresses the input charge and is driven by the exhaust gases. If companies start labelling non-turbocharged vehicles as Turbo, it's a complete mis-representation and a faux-pas in my opinion. Porsche has simply got it wrong here.

AndrewBissell 7y ago

Yeah Tesla is way ahead of the curve here, they've figured out that all car feature branding is supposed to be based on "Spaceballs" references.

toomuchtodo 7y ago
They're marketing to a younger crowd. Average age of a Porsche owner is 40. Go where the puck is going to be, not where it is. My elderly neighbor with his Porsche might not appreciate the reference, but mid 30s I enjoy it.
- clouddrover 7y ago
  Spaceballs was released 32 years ago. Not such a young crowd anymore: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094012/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094012/ In any case, Volkswagen is going for Star Wars references with Porsche: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo95p9mdiWg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo95p9mdiWg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc-fWmWxx4Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc-fWmWxx4Q And Marvel references with Audi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmgwBKzHIuA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmgwBKzHIuA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hpNFDpRNlc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hpNFDpRNlc
  - toomuchtodo 7y ago
    I suppose young was the wrong word. Perhaps "fun" or "not stuffy" would've been better? Fart mode, theater mode, pop culture naming of options in the vehicle config > fit & finish. I don't have an exact name for it, but I can see the difference between my older neighbor and what he values in his Porsche vs what I value in my Model S.
    - clouddrover 7y ago
      Star Wars and Marvel movies are stuffy?
    - tmh88j 7y ago

kec 7y ago

And Tesla has announced a "roadster" with a hardtop roof and two rows of seats....