4 ms·
On the other hand, TUM (technical university in Munich) costs only 220 euro per semester, and you're still enrolled into top25 university in the world. The lan
by nixass 7y ago
On the other hand, TUM (technical university in Munich) costs only 220 euro per semester, and you're still enrolled into top25 university in the world.
The land of free..
- Scoundreller 7y agoHow am I supposed to buy my way in there if I have to compete with the entirety of society for admissions??!!
- nixass 7y agoBe good student perhaps? You'd rather have a bunch of money loaded people than people who earned their spot?
- Scoundreller 7y agoIt’s a joke, but there’s no doubt people that have benefitted from the barrier to entry being cost.
- haditab 7y agoThat's impressive. As someone who works in Robotics, I rate them very highly. Does it cost the same for international students?
- DominikPeters 7y agoYep, there are no additional fees. https://www.tum.de/en/studies/fees-and-financial-aid/ https://www.tum.de/en/studies/fees-and-financial-aid/ Compared to the U.S. situation, it's funny to see universities talking about financial aid for those that cannot afford the yearly fee of €258.80. Note that many other things are also vastly cheaper at German universities; for example textbook prices are reasonable, on-campus dining is dirt cheap, etc.
- rayiner 7y agoTUM has a $1.1 billion budget and 41,000 students. Chicago has a $2.6 billion budget and 16,000 students.
- jdsully 7y agoCould you elaborate a little on why that's relevant? Is the extra money providing materially better education? Is it somehow impossible for Chicago to lower their costs?
- rayiner 7y agoIt's a reference to the "land of the free" dig. The U.S. already spends similar amounts of public money on higher education as Germany, etc. (As a %-age of GDP). We don't have free universities, however, because our universities spend vastly more money. That has benefits for students. In my own experience, going to an expensive private law school was a much nicer experience than going to a rigorous, but more spartan, public engineering school for undergrad. There was much more academic support, hand-holding, mental health services, beautiful facilities, etc. Even American community colleges are really nice. (My mother in law works at a community college in rural Oregon. It's got a fantastic, brand-new fitness facility with sweeping views, etc.) We can debate about whether that's a good use of money, or what spending priorities should be. Maybe the right thing to do is cut costs, preserving an equivalent education experience while cutting frills. Or, maybe Americans are so rich it's reasonable for us to splurge on all of that stuff. But Americans aren't irrational. It's not like Americans are just sitting here refusing to adopt an approach that would get them the same college experience for vastly less money.
- AnimalMuppet 7y ago> We can debate about whether that's a good use of money... It's not. I can get a gym membership for $10/month. And I'm not going to college to get a degree in physical fitness. And, your argument doesn't hold numerically. Say 440 euros/year = $500/year. That's 1/200 the cost to the student of the University of Chicago. So Chicago spends 5 times as much per student; it still looks insane from the cost/benefit perspective.