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> "Culture exists and can't be ignored" Yeah it can, why can't I ignore culture? I download a tool, and use it as I wish to within my company.
by axod 16y ago
> "Culture exists and can't be ignored"
Yeah it can, why can't I ignore culture?
I download a tool, and use it as I wish to within my company.
- andrewcooke 16y ago> why can't I ignore culture? In practice, it's very hard to do. Try living in a foreign country for a time.
- shortlived 16y agoIn my experience that is not true. There is a huge expat Russian population outside Boston, many of whom live in their own bubble of language and culture. The same goes for American expats living in Russia.
- andrewcooke 16y agoSure, but that's not really arguing against what I'm saying is it? There's enough of them to transplant their own culture over there. That's not the same as being "culture free".
- limmeau 16y agoYou can of course ignore a language's culture, but then your code will look and feel surprising to other programmers who are familiar with the language and its culture. If you're the only person who will need to maintain the code, fine.
- axod 16y agoThe programmers I'm ever likely to work with, are good enough that they can read code properly, regardless of if it fits into a particular 'culture' or not.
- gdulli 16y agoYou want to hire a developer for language X. The pool of candidates is heavily influenced by culture X. Same goes for job seeking.
- jimbokun 16y agoBecause the tool has almost certainly been influenced by the culture in which it was created. And the tools that integrate well with that tool, and the people on the IRC channel where you will ask questions about that tool, and so on and so forth.
- axod 16y agoAs I said elsewhere, Java doesn't force anyone to use factory everywhere, singleton, abstraction needless crap. So "Java the language" to me is a useful tool. It's in no way connected to "Java the culture" or "Enterprise Java" which are both total garbage.