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Use OS packages instead.

by eeZah7Ux 7y ago

e12e 7y ago
And on OS X and Windows?
- catern 7y ago
  Does repl.it provide OS X/Windows backend servers?
  - amasad 7y ago
    No not yet. And it hasn't been requested all that much but UPM works on OS X and I'm sure it's straightforward to make it work on Windows.
    - raxod502 7y ago
      Actually, UPM fully supports Windows, as far as I know. You can install it directly as an executable, or via Scoop.
pjmlp 7y ago
Right should I package it as deb, RPM, tgz, deploy, p5i, pkg, msi, msix, appx, apk, aar, ipa, ISMP or do you have any other favourite OS package format in mind? As fun game you can try to map those package formats to their respective OSes.
- archi42 7y ago
  To be fair, isn't deb/apt already open source? If you don't know it, check out the "competing standards" xkcd. If I was a FOSS dev, I'd say "screw it; just let people pull the git and package it however their distribution wants it".
  - pjmlp 7y ago
    Not every company wants to deliver open source packages, nor everyone uses git.
  - roblabla 7y ago
    I mean, for 99% of the packages in most distribs, that’s how it works. Someone makes a cool binary, someone else packages it up and submits it to their favorite distro’s package manager.
- eeZah7Ux 7y ago
  No, you only package what you need.
zem 7y ago
very few (if any) will install as user, or install to a specified prefix for per-project versions of installs.
raxod502 7y ago
That doesn't work unless you can assume that every developer is willing to install all the dependencies of your project globally, with no control over what versions are used.
- eeZah7Ux 7y ago
  ...which is how the majority of software in the world is deployed, outside of the HN bubble. There are many statistics on this.
  - TeMPOraL 7y ago
    But it's not how it's developed. It's not uncommon that you need to run multiple different versions of the software you're working on, each using different versions of its dependencies.
    - erik_seaberg 7y ago
      Containers are great for testing on a distro you don't use.
danudey 7y ago
Most OS packages are out of date, putting new features or libraries out of reach of most people using them.
- eeZah7Ux 7y ago
  Not really.

Use OS packages instead.

e12e 7y ago

And on OS X and Windows?

catern 7y ago
Does repl.it provide OS X/Windows backend servers?
- amasad 7y ago
  No not yet. And it hasn't been requested all that much but UPM works on OS X and I'm sure it's straightforward to make it work on Windows.
  - raxod502 7y ago
    Actually, UPM fully supports Windows, as far as I know. You can install it directly as an executable, or via Scoop.

pjmlp 7y ago

Right should I package it as deb, RPM, tgz, deploy, p5i, pkg, msi, msix, appx, apk, aar, ipa, ISMP or do you have any other favourite OS package format in mind? As fun game you can try to map those package formats to their respective OSes.

archi42 7y ago
To be fair, isn't deb/apt already open source? If you don't know it, check out the "competing standards" xkcd. If I was a FOSS dev, I'd say "screw it; just let people pull the git and package it however their distribution wants it".
- pjmlp 7y ago
  Not every company wants to deliver open source packages, nor everyone uses git.
- roblabla 7y ago
  I mean, for 99% of the packages in most distribs, that’s how it works. Someone makes a cool binary, someone else packages it up and submits it to their favorite distro’s package manager.
eeZah7Ux 7y ago
No, you only package what you need.

zem 7y ago

very few (if any) will install as user, or install to a specified prefix for per-project versions of installs.

raxod502 7y ago

That doesn't work unless you can assume that every developer is willing to install all the dependencies of your project globally, with no control over what versions are used.

eeZah7Ux 7y ago
...which is how the majority of software in the world is deployed, outside of the HN bubble. There are many statistics on this.
- TeMPOraL 7y ago
  But it's not how it's developed. It's not uncommon that you need to run multiple different versions of the software you're working on, each using different versions of its dependencies.
  - erik_seaberg 7y ago
    Containers are great for testing on a distro you don't use.

danudey 7y ago

Most OS packages are out of date, putting new features or libraries out of reach of most people using them.

eeZah7Ux 7y ago
Not really.