> First name and last name are bad proxies for given name and family name. It sounds like you are agreeing with me here. > Anyone from an Eastern culture fill

> First name and last name are bad proxies for given name and family name. It sounds like you are agreeing with me here. > Anyone from an Eastern culture filling in an English form knows or should know that. If they don't, it's mostly their fault. A bad form design collects bad data and it's the fault of the person filling it in? How about we just use better form fields? > This is mostly an imagined problem, and it goes away if you ask for "first name/given name" and "last name/surname", which removes any ambiguity. If you acknowledge that this ambiguity can be resolved by changing what you are asking, why are you arguing this point? Just use better form fields. > (I happen to have an Eastern name, so I did not call it an imagined problem because I knew nothing about it.) I have a western name and my name is backwards on all sorts of documents and I've been called "Mr Jim" a huge number of times because of this issue. It's not mostly imagined, it's extremely common in my experience. If you want to know their legal name, ask for their legal name. If you want to know what you should call them, ask what you should call them. First name / last name are not good fields for this and the solutions are simple.