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We don't have to "miss it". Let's just share it. There are many corners of the internet away from the spotlights. Let's just share some links, what are they ?

x2f10 7y ago
I find people don't want to share these. I can understand to a degree as I've seen good communities go to hell once the "normies" show up.
- taborj 7y ago
  Also see: Eternal September[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
- errantspark 7y ago
  It's so hard to strike a balance between inclusion and 'eternal september'. Managing a community is incredibly hard work. I don't really know if I can think of a way to be both inclusive and preserve the value of a community indefinitely. It seems that at some point you really need barriers to entry to keep things sane.
  - faissaloo 7y ago
    I've found that an effective way to strike a balance is to simply refuse to scale. Once people can't access your site only the dedicated will remain.
- hnuser77 7y ago
  This is the "dark forest" theory of the current internet, ironically posted on Medium [1]. You can put up registration barriers and such, but even being world-readable can attract negative attention. It's getting to the point where you have to "know people" to find cool stuff online. [1] https://onezero.medium.com/the-dark-forest-theory-of-the-internet-7dc3e68a7cb1 https://onezero.medium.com/the-dark-forest-theory-of-the-int...
rocky1138 7y ago
That's part of the reason I run kwat.chat, because I want people to share things they've built. This includes links to blog posts or websites themselves.
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faissaloo 7y ago
I created https://ratwires.space https://ratwires.space (nsfw) a crazy little javascriptless anonymous textboard with text effects that only permits 255 posts to exist at any one time and where replies eventually becomes threads in and of themselves. People often share links to various other small sites there so it's turned out to be great for (re)discovering the undernet.
- Aeolun 7y ago
  It’s actually impressive. I guess it’s even possible a lot of it is internal jargon that I just do not understand.
scarejunba 7y ago
No, thanks. The rules of old Internet are different. HN would flip a shit at some old "guestbook" app and its GDPR incompatibility because the owner of the site stopped paying attention, for instance. It's like Instagram ruining the nice spots. Now everyone knows where they are and they don't know how to behave. Even lobste.rs is getting ropey, though the user tree does help with that.

x2f10 7y ago

I find people don't want to share these. I can understand to a degree as I've seen good communities go to hell once the "normies" show up.

taborj 7y ago
Also see: Eternal September[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
errantspark 7y ago
It's so hard to strike a balance between inclusion and 'eternal september'. Managing a community is incredibly hard work. I don't really know if I can think of a way to be both inclusive and preserve the value of a community indefinitely. It seems that at some point you really need barriers to entry to keep things sane.
- faissaloo 7y ago
  I've found that an effective way to strike a balance is to simply refuse to scale. Once people can't access your site only the dedicated will remain.
hnuser77 7y ago
This is the "dark forest" theory of the current internet, ironically posted on Medium [1]. You can put up registration barriers and such, but even being world-readable can attract negative attention. It's getting to the point where you have to "know people" to find cool stuff online. [1] https://onezero.medium.com/the-dark-forest-theory-of-the-internet-7dc3e68a7cb1 https://onezero.medium.com/the-dark-forest-theory-of-the-int...

rocky1138 7y ago

That's part of the reason I run kwat.chat, because I want people to share things they've built. This includes links to blog posts or websites themselves.

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faissaloo 7y ago

I created https://ratwires.space https://ratwires.space (nsfw) a crazy little javascriptless anonymous textboard with text effects that only permits 255 posts to exist at any one time and where replies eventually becomes threads in and of themselves. People often share links to various other small sites there so it's turned out to be great for (re)discovering the undernet.

Aeolun 7y ago
It’s actually impressive. I guess it’s even possible a lot of it is internal jargon that I just do not understand.

scarejunba 7y ago

No, thanks. The rules of old Internet are different. HN would flip a shit at some old "guestbook" app and its GDPR incompatibility because the owner of the site stopped paying attention, for instance. It's like Instagram ruining the nice spots. Now everyone knows where they are and they don't know how to behave. Even lobste.rs is getting ropey, though the user tree does help with that.