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People still run blogs. People still run their own forums. Nothing is "lost", there is just a whole lot of new things that apparently don't interest you as much

by efdee 7y ago

People still run blogs. People still run their own forums. Nothing is "lost", there is just a whole lot of new things that apparently don't interest you as much. Personally, I can't really say that I miss any of the sites designed like they were in the 90s, with their ever-rotating GIFs, Flash-based intro pages, "Designed for Netscape" badges. And does an influencer need to have his/her own website? Not more than an ad needs its own website. The "original Internet" is still there, and I dare say more people are using it than back in the 90s. It's just that a lot more people are also using the newer stuff that you don't like. And that's fine.

pbhjpbhj 7y ago
I think maybe they're bemoaning the dichotomy between increased access and apparent decreased use of the internet for creation of content by ordinary users -- or at least content that's not being exploited for advertising/marketing? I'd warrant a tiny fraction of users have their own blogs now compared to a decade ago?
- efdee 7y ago
  But that was apparent from the get-go. Most people just want to consume. In the early years, "going online" already took some effort or knowledge - only as it became gradually easier did the large swathes of consumers join. If you lived through Eternal September, you kind of knew this was coming. But again, just because plenty of people consume, and plenty of companies cater mostly to the consumers, doesn't mean there isn't another world out there for those who look.
Trav5 7y ago
> there is just a whole lot of new things that apparently doesn't interest you as much. Or these new things interest them more and they don't like it. Like a frustrating addiction.
ArtDev 7y ago
On a related sidenote, I wish a good bookmark sharing service existed. Del.li.cious used to be amazing and useful.
BrS96bVxXBLzf5B 7y ago
I've been thinking about this even more recently, specifically in the context of online portals for Flash content (games, movies, web comics etc). My conclusion is that there has been a loss, and it's largely related to reason for creation. Everything is now so product and marketing focused that creation for creation's sake makes the end result different. E.g. if you were to search "pug lovers" two decades ago, you might find blogs posts about pugs, people's personal sites filled with images and stories of their own pugs, a small community pug-loving, pug-adopting as its own forum. Now the first page of Google for "pug lovers" shows: a Facebook page, an Amazon page, a Pinterest page, two Etsy pages, two bespoke (catering towards dogs) storefronts, and one cute site (http://pugdogclub.org.uk/gallery/pug-lovers/ http://pugdogclub.org.uk/gallery/pug-lovers/). There's no objective better or worse - people want the things all the new top results provide - but I know which era of results I prefer.
- senderista 7y ago
  Try “pug lovers” with Safe Search turned off.

by efdee 7y ago

pbhjpbhj 7y ago

I think maybe they're bemoaning the dichotomy between increased access and apparent decreased use of the internet for creation of content by ordinary users -- or at least content that's not being exploited for advertising/marketing? I'd warrant a tiny fraction of users have their own blogs now compared to a decade ago?

efdee 7y ago
But that was apparent from the get-go. Most people just want to consume. In the early years, "going online" already took some effort or knowledge - only as it became gradually easier did the large swathes of consumers join. If you lived through Eternal September, you kind of knew this was coming. But again, just because plenty of people consume, and plenty of companies cater mostly to the consumers, doesn't mean there isn't another world out there for those who look.

Trav5 7y ago

> there is just a whole lot of new things that apparently doesn't interest you as much. Or these new things interest them more and they don't like it. Like a frustrating addiction.

ArtDev 7y ago

On a related sidenote, I wish a good bookmark sharing service existed. Del.li.cious used to be amazing and useful.

BrS96bVxXBLzf5B 7y ago

I've been thinking about this even more recently, specifically in the context of online portals for Flash content (games, movies, web comics etc). My conclusion is that there has been a loss, and it's largely related to reason for creation. Everything is now so product and marketing focused that creation for creation's sake makes the end result different. E.g. if you were to search "pug lovers" two decades ago, you might find blogs posts about pugs, people's personal sites filled with images and stories of their own pugs, a small community pug-loving, pug-adopting as its own forum. Now the first page of Google for "pug lovers" shows: a Facebook page, an Amazon page, a Pinterest page, two Etsy pages, two bespoke (catering towards dogs) storefronts, and one cute site (http://pugdogclub.org.uk/gallery/pug-lovers/ http://pugdogclub.org.uk/gallery/pug-lovers/). There's no objective better or worse - people want the things all the new top results provide - but I know which era of results I prefer.

senderista 7y ago
Try “pug lovers” with Safe Search turned off.