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I deleted everything Google and switched to iOS a few years ago so Google would have less of my data. Now they are going to get detailed location, activity, and

I deleted everything Google and switched to iOS a few years ago so Google would have less of my data. Now they are going to get detailed location, activity, and sleep history for all of those years anyway. You really can't win can you. I bet there is no option to download my data and nuke what they have before this happens either.

remus 7y ago
> I bet there is no option to download my data and nuke what they have before this happens either. Are you based in the EU? If so then you can do exactly that under GDPR.
- rhexs 7y ago
  I’ve always wondered, how do they know if you’re in the EU? Can I change my address to somewhere in the EU and get my data deleted or will they check?
  - eanzenberg 7y ago
    Maybe where the data originated? So, if you are a EU citizen, but use a google device in the US on vacation, is the data generated in US bound by US-only regulations, so no GDRP?
    - Normal_gaussian 7y ago
      When you are geographically in the EU the GDPR rights apply to all your data. The location of the data does not matter. The origin of the data does not matter. Citizenship does not matter. These are the reasons many US firms tried to call GDPR overreaching. However if it didn't apply in this way there would be too much wiggle room to be effective.
    - metal13 7y ago
      It's...complicated: https://www.dataprotectionreport.com/2018/12/edpb-clarifies-territorial-scope-of-the-gdpr/ https://www.dataprotectionreport.com/2018/12/edpb-clarifies-... "The Guidelines note that the processing of personal data of EU citizens that takes place outside the EU will not trigger the GDPR so long as the processing is not a specific offer directed at individuals in the EU or to monitor their behavior in the EU." So it may be safe for google...but given it would apply to a user profile in general, including EU, maybe not?
      - peterwwillis 7y ago
        Send a GDPR request anyway. Many companies do not track what region their users live in, or what parts of it came from what regions, etc. They get a GDPR request and they just file it in the queue for processing. All they know initially is your name and e-mail when you send in the request.
- encoderer 7y ago
  The upcoming CCPA law will cover the GP here. Expect a self service portal for ccpa deletion in January for most major services. Even if you do not live in California your request will likely be honored but of course I have no specifics about Fitbit.
trekrich 7y ago
Just logged in and deleted mine, i dont want Google getting it. Then adding it to my existing google account.
mdorazio 7y ago
The only winning move anymore is to not play. Don’t sign up for any service that collects and stores detailed information like that. If that’s even possible these days. Unfortunately the “people who actually care about their data” market is too small to justify making something like a privacy-oriented Fitbit.
- chii 7y ago
  > The only winning move anymore is to not play. that's like not having a bank account/credit card in the modern day. Doable, but extremely inconvenient and difficult to remain so.
- rubyfan 7y ago
  You don’t play this game. We are all pawns, you can’t choose to play or not. You are the product and almost every organization you interact with is trying to get a piece of the action. Some of the worst offenders selling you out are your state and local governments.

remus 7y ago

> I bet there is no option to download my data and nuke what they have before this happens either. Are you based in the EU? If so then you can do exactly that under GDPR.

rhexs 7y ago
I’ve always wondered, how do they know if you’re in the EU? Can I change my address to somewhere in the EU and get my data deleted or will they check?
- eanzenberg 7y ago
  Maybe where the data originated? So, if you are a EU citizen, but use a google device in the US on vacation, is the data generated in US bound by US-only regulations, so no GDRP?
  - Normal_gaussian 7y ago
    When you are geographically in the EU the GDPR rights apply to all your data. The location of the data does not matter. The origin of the data does not matter. Citizenship does not matter. These are the reasons many US firms tried to call GDPR overreaching. However if it didn't apply in this way there would be too much wiggle room to be effective.
  - metal13 7y ago
    It's...complicated: https://www.dataprotectionreport.com/2018/12/edpb-clarifies-territorial-scope-of-the-gdpr/ https://www.dataprotectionreport.com/2018/12/edpb-clarifies-... "The Guidelines note that the processing of personal data of EU citizens that takes place outside the EU will not trigger the GDPR so long as the processing is not a specific offer directed at individuals in the EU or to monitor their behavior in the EU." So it may be safe for google...but given it would apply to a user profile in general, including EU, maybe not?
    - peterwwillis 7y ago
      Send a GDPR request anyway. Many companies do not track what region their users live in, or what parts of it came from what regions, etc. They get a GDPR request and they just file it in the queue for processing. All they know initially is your name and e-mail when you send in the request.
encoderer 7y ago
The upcoming CCPA law will cover the GP here. Expect a self service portal for ccpa deletion in January for most major services. Even if you do not live in California your request will likely be honored but of course I have no specifics about Fitbit.

trekrich 7y ago

Just logged in and deleted mine, i dont want Google getting it. Then adding it to my existing google account.

mdorazio 7y ago

The only winning move anymore is to not play. Don’t sign up for any service that collects and stores detailed information like that. If that’s even possible these days. Unfortunately the “people who actually care about their data” market is too small to justify making something like a privacy-oriented Fitbit.

chii 7y ago
> The only winning move anymore is to not play. that's like not having a bank account/credit card in the modern day. Doable, but extremely inconvenient and difficult to remain so.
rubyfan 7y ago
You don’t play this game. We are all pawns, you can’t choose to play or not. You are the product and almost every organization you interact with is trying to get a piece of the action. Some of the worst offenders selling you out are your state and local governments.