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Indeed. Someone I know has had theirs stolen twice.. last month. I've just had a catloc (anti-theft) fitted last week, let's see what good it'll do. Glad we're
by Nux 7y ago
Indeed. Someone I know has had theirs stolen twice.. last month.
I've just had a catloc (anti-theft) fitted last week, let's see what good it'll do.
Glad we're moving to EVs and away from this nightmare.
- AWildC182 7y agoJust drive a car with very low ground clearance. Problem solved?
- ars 7y agoNo, not solved. They will just use a jack. And since they don't care about damaging the frame they can employ it very quickly.
- AnimalMuppet 7y agoNot in a world where jacks exist...
- asteli 7y agoi have a lifted truck but i'm cheap so i just wrapped a length of chain around the cat, secured with shitty padlocks i had laying around. doesn't actually have to be secure, just look like enough of a PITA to remove that the thief moves on.
- Fjolsvith 7y agoI cut mine out of my trucks and put a straight pipe in. Sold them myself. Only able to do that in a state that doesn't regulate citizens to poverty.
- saagarjha 7y agoHow exactly does cutting the catalytic converter out of your truck keep you out of poverty?
- cowmoo728 7y agoI don't agree with his sentiment, but some people find it unfair that California basically requires every car sold in the US to come with a $1000 part to control pollution. The argument is that California regulations shouldn't set the price of cars in Mississippi.
- caf 7y agoI am quite literally astonished to learn today that there is any first world country where catalytic converters are not required equipment.
- jdsully 7y agoCats are required everywhere, but in CA they need to contain much more precious metals to meet the state standards than they would for just the national requirements. Most automakers choose to standardize on CA emissions standards nationally. > The California Air Resources Board (CARB) is stricter on their regulations. CARB requires more precious metals and rigorous testing which is why they cost more than EPA catalytic converters. https://autoquarterly.com/best-catalytic-converters/#Federal_or_CARB_Converters https://autoquarterly.com/best-catalytic-converters/#Federal...
- ryandrake 7y agoNot only are they required but CA requires $pecific ones with their CARB seal of approval. I had an older car from outside CA that never needed to comply with CA’s rules. When I moved to CA I tried to do the right thing by installing a working cat and tuning my car so it did not pollute. Got it to blow clean as a whistle but the state still failed me because it wasn’t one of their expensive approved devices. Ended up having to sell it out of state because CA labeled my car as “tampered.” You cant win with these guys.
- lotsofpulp 7y agoI can’t believe people are stupid enough to think california regulations set the price of cars in other states, because they literally don’t.
- asteli 7y agoit is good practice to keep emissions equipment in place. this way you can avoid paying to replace your cats if you have to move to a state that tests/inspects. it also reduces the amount of air and noise pollution that people in your community experience.
- Fjolsvith 7y agoMy rural community of 380 people don't experience a lot of air and noise pollution. If I need to replace them, I know where I can buy them used. Plus, I don't have to replace them if someone else removes them unasked.
- dfcagency 7y agoPretty dick move to pollute and make your exhaust annoyingly louder. You should really reconsider. Context: I did this, and it was stupid as hell. I could smell and taste my exhaust at stop lights.
- WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago> I could smell and taste my exhaust at stop lights. I'm sure his estate sale will probably discount his truck when it's sold.
- arcticfox 7y ago> Only able to do that in a state that doesn't regulate citizens to poverty. Which state is that, out of curiosity? I'm going to feel just a little better if I can support changing those regulations someday, knowing how callously some people treat negative externalities
- macintux 7y agoIt is, however, a federal crime.
- AWildC182 7y agoSo rather than waiting for someone to steal it.....you stole it yourself?
- nikanj 7y agoProblem: thieves steal mandatory cats One solution: Less government meddling, make cats not mandatory Second solution: More government meddling, i.e. actually do something about the thefts It absolutely blows my mind that people out there think #1 is the better solution
- otterley 7y agoI grew up in Los Angeles during the worst decade of pollution it ever experienced and suffered serious childhood asthma as a result. The decrease in smog after catalytic converters were invented and required in new cars was significant. After the changes, my ability to breathe improved drastically, and I know I’m not alone. I, for one, strongly support reasonable environmental regulations as a result. https://www.kcet.org/history-society/how-los-angeles-began-to-put-its-smoggy-days-behind https://www.kcet.org/history-society/how-los-angeles-began-t... is a great history of those times.
- not2personal 7y ago>i.e. actually do something about the thefts When that time comes I'll change my position on the matter.
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- matthewowen 7y agoBesides being an idiotic asshole move, what you did is illegal in every state because it violates the Clean Air Act.
- noonespecial 7y agoPollution concerns aside, your valves are timed and the manifold ports are shaped to work with the back pressure provided by a working cat. If you didn't compensate for this during the modification you've likely cut the working life of you head(s) by half.
- dsfyu404ed 7y ago>ports are shaped to work with the back pressure provided by a working cat. This is a 100% urban legend BS myth. There's a partial exception for two-strokes where if you tune the system right you get a resonance wave that lets you pack a little more mixture in on the intake/exhaust stroke. Literally no 4-stroke ICE benefits from back-pressure in any way. It's just that sometimes the things done to reduce back-pressure (small exhaust pipes being the primary one) seem like they would increase it and vice-versa hence the urban legend. Edit: Who the heck is downvoting this? This is how ICEs work. Google it if you don't believe me.
- journalctl 7y agoAs though requiring the ownership of a five-figure polluting death trap simply to live and work isn’t its own form of wealth-based oppression.
- journalctl 7y agoDownvote me all you want but let’s not miss the forest for the trees: you wouldn’t need to have an expensive car part if you didn’t need a car that has to have expensive parts.
- kjs3 7y agoI've heard similar arguments about government regulated safe disposal requirements of used motor oil, old paint and unused pesticides. How dare the government not allow us to just dump that down the drain or pour it into the local creek.
- rini17 7y agoSadly batteries are attractive to thieves, too, to be dismantled to cells and sold. They are just more inconvenient to extract, usually whole car is stolen.