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Just ordered Deliveroo. Currently they are still a marketplace, but I wonder when they will go full "Amazon Basics"? They know what people want when, what price

by franze 7y ago

Just ordered Deliveroo. Currently they are still a marketplace, but I wonder when they will go full "Amazon Basics"? They know what people want when, what prices they want to pay, what quality they expect, how long they are ready to wait. with all this data its just a matter of time they offer they own kitchens that create 20% of the products that fullfil 80% of the market need for 60% of the market price. wonder why no delivery company has done this yet?

esotericn 7y ago
They already do have a portion of the business that does that. I worked for them for a few weeks in London as a way to get paid to work out. There was a sort of container warehouse in Battersea - basically food trucks that you're ordering from. You might also appreciate this: > I Sold Microwave Meals On Deliveroo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k47u9tduwb8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k47u9tduwb8
- franze 7y ago
  do they market it / present it that way on their website?
  - esotericn 7y ago
    I don't think I've ever actually ordered from them, I'm not in the market for 20 quid takeaways. When I had a look a few years back basically everywhere looked the same with stock professional photos. You wouldn't know that your fancy-looking Indian came from a grimy backstreet shop or container or whatever else.
    - heavenlyblue 7y ago
      That’s why you should order from places you have actually been to. I wouldn’t say the service is any different then. But again, you say you’re not in the market for 20 quid takeaways - then how much are you willing to pay for food? That’s how much it costs to eat in London unless you’re going for cheapish fried chicken or a really bad pizza.
      - esotericn 7y ago
        I cook for myself and get higher quality food at a fraction of the price. I generally reserve eating out for when I'm on the go or want to have a night out with friends. It's very rare that I buy takeaway food to eat at home. One of the best parts about being at home is having a kitchen. Decent quality prepared food is expensive in a ton of places, this isn't an exclusively London thing by any stretch of the imagination.
        librish 7y ago
        For a lot of people assigning a "reasonable" cost per hour spent cooking results in cooking for yourself being more expensive.
        esotericn 7y ago
        Yeah yeah, I've been through this a million times on here. Cooking is one of the pleasures of life, it ain't all about the grind.
        librish 7y ago
        One of your pleasures, which is awesome for you. I wish I enjoyed cooking, but I don't, so if you've been through this a million times maybe it's time to stop assuming it's some universal joy?
        esotericn 7y ago
        I honestly couldn't care less whether it's a universal joy. Specialization is for insects. You do you. :)
      - mantap 7y ago
        Absolutely does not cost £20 to eat in London, unless you live somewhere upmarket but in that case you can probably afford it. I can get good pizza for ~£7.
  - bosie 7y ago
    Yes, they call it 'Deliveroo Editions'. They sometimes waive the delivery fee, has its own logo/category and you can mix the delivery from various restaurants
    - Scoundreller 7y ago
      I’m waiting for “street deals” where you get prompted to buy a discounted offering of the same thing/provider/time as someone nearby.
tedmiston 7y ago
DoorDash [1][2] and UberEats [3][4] now both have "ghost restaurants" (virtual restaurants) as well as "ghost kitchens", which are kinda the next evolution of shared / incubator kitchens but particularly focused on preparing a small amount of dishes mostly for delivery. Most recently it seems they're also starting to pay attention to the carryout market as well, but I think that's a small slice. [1]: https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/14/doordash-kitchens/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/14/doordash-kitchens/ [2]: https://www.eater.com/2017/10/31/16580814/doordash-kitchens-virtual-delivery-restaurants https://www.eater.com/2017/10/31/16580814/doordash-kitchens-... [3]: https://www.eater.com/2018/10/24/18018334/uber-eats-virtual-restaurants https://www.eater.com/2018/10/24/18018334/uber-eats-virtual-... [4]: https://www.sun-sentinel.com/entertainment/restaurants-and-bars/fl-et-ghost-restaurants-miami-fort-lauderdale-palm-beach-20191022-nrc4xstd5nhl3ljhn3jf3ijzeu-story.html https://www.sun-sentinel.com/entertainment/restaurants-and-b...
- Larrikin 7y ago
  With the increase in dark patterns to hide delivery fees and sneakily increasing the tip at the end, I'm predicting carryout to become increasingly more prevalent when people get sick of companies trying to force them to pay $10 for delivering $20 worth of food
  - tedmiston 7y ago
    I think so too. I live in an area where carryout is very easy and the apps make payment and timing super convenient vs ordering over the phone or walking in and waiting an unknown amount of time. As far as I can tell, none of the apps are marking up menu item prices for pickup today the way they do for delivery. I hope that keeps up.

by franze 7y ago

esotericn 7y ago

They already do have a portion of the business that does that. I worked for them for a few weeks in London as a way to get paid to work out. There was a sort of container warehouse in Battersea - basically food trucks that you're ordering from. You might also appreciate this: > I Sold Microwave Meals On Deliveroo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k47u9tduwb8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k47u9tduwb8

franze 7y ago
do they market it / present it that way on their website?
- esotericn 7y ago
  I don't think I've ever actually ordered from them, I'm not in the market for 20 quid takeaways. When I had a look a few years back basically everywhere looked the same with stock professional photos. You wouldn't know that your fancy-looking Indian came from a grimy backstreet shop or container or whatever else.
  - heavenlyblue 7y ago
    That’s why you should order from places you have actually been to. I wouldn’t say the service is any different then. But again, you say you’re not in the market for 20 quid takeaways - then how much are you willing to pay for food? That’s how much it costs to eat in London unless you’re going for cheapish fried chicken or a really bad pizza.
    - esotericn 7y ago
      I cook for myself and get higher quality food at a fraction of the price. I generally reserve eating out for when I'm on the go or want to have a night out with friends. It's very rare that I buy takeaway food to eat at home. One of the best parts about being at home is having a kitchen. Decent quality prepared food is expensive in a ton of places, this isn't an exclusively London thing by any stretch of the imagination.
      - librish 7y ago
        For a lot of people assigning a "reasonable" cost per hour spent cooking results in cooking for yourself being more expensive.
        esotericn 7y ago
        Yeah yeah, I've been through this a million times on here. Cooking is one of the pleasures of life, it ain't all about the grind.
        librish 7y ago
        One of your pleasures, which is awesome for you. I wish I enjoyed cooking, but I don't, so if you've been through this a million times maybe it's time to stop assuming it's some universal joy?
        esotericn 7y ago
        I honestly couldn't care less whether it's a universal joy. Specialization is for insects. You do you. :)
    - mantap 7y ago
      Absolutely does not cost £20 to eat in London, unless you live somewhere upmarket but in that case you can probably afford it. I can get good pizza for ~£7.
- bosie 7y ago
  Yes, they call it 'Deliveroo Editions'. They sometimes waive the delivery fee, has its own logo/category and you can mix the delivery from various restaurants
  - Scoundreller 7y ago
    I’m waiting for “street deals” where you get prompted to buy a discounted offering of the same thing/provider/time as someone nearby.

tedmiston 7y ago

DoorDash [1][2] and UberEats [3][4] now both have "ghost restaurants" (virtual restaurants) as well as "ghost kitchens", which are kinda the next evolution of shared / incubator kitchens but particularly focused on preparing a small amount of dishes mostly for delivery. Most recently it seems they're also starting to pay attention to the carryout market as well, but I think that's a small slice. [1]: https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/14/doordash-kitchens/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/14/doordash-kitchens/ [2]: https://www.eater.com/2017/10/31/16580814/doordash-kitchens-virtual-delivery-restaurants https://www.eater.com/2017/10/31/16580814/doordash-kitchens-... [3]: https://www.eater.com/2018/10/24/18018334/uber-eats-virtual-restaurants https://www.eater.com/2018/10/24/18018334/uber-eats-virtual-... [4]: https://www.sun-sentinel.com/entertainment/restaurants-and-bars/fl-et-ghost-restaurants-miami-fort-lauderdale-palm-beach-20191022-nrc4xstd5nhl3ljhn3jf3ijzeu-story.html https://www.sun-sentinel.com/entertainment/restaurants-and-b...

Larrikin 7y ago
With the increase in dark patterns to hide delivery fees and sneakily increasing the tip at the end, I'm predicting carryout to become increasingly more prevalent when people get sick of companies trying to force them to pay $10 for delivering $20 worth of food
- tedmiston 7y ago
  I think so too. I live in an area where carryout is very easy and the apps make payment and timing super convenient vs ordering over the phone or walking in and waiting an unknown amount of time. As far as I can tell, none of the apps are marking up menu item prices for pickup today the way they do for delivery. I hope that keeps up.